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2008-05-09 07:10
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 AUC truncated [Design Issues]

Dear All,

I would like to know if there is a special procedure to sample collection considering AUC truncated design when the drug has a long half-life (higher than 90 hours). Is it correct collect samples for 2xt1/2? Considering t1/2 = 90h, sample collection until 180h. In this situation would be impossible to apply the concept of samples until 72h. Is it correct?

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Daniel Rossi de Campos
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2008-05-17 18:34
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 AUC truncated at 72 hours

Dear Daniel!

❝ I would like to know if there is a special procedure to sample collection considering AUC truncated design when the drug has a long half-life (higher than 90 hours).


No; last sample = 72 hours. I would try to concentrate on Cmax.

❝ Is it correct collect samples for 2xt1/2? Considering t1/2 = 90h, sample collection until 180h. In this situation would be impossible to apply the concept of samples until 72h.


Please see this thread first.
In short the time point of truncation is triggered by the maximum gastric residence time (which by consensus is set to 72 h)   there’s no connection with t1/2 for immediate release products.

See also WHO's guideline (Section 6.2 Study design):

‘It is currently not foreseen that there would be a need for blood samples to be collected for more than 72 hours.’

… and even more specific (Section 6.2.2 Considerations for drugs with long elimination half-lives):

‘For both cross-over and parallel-design studies, sample collection time should be adequate to ensure completion of gastrointestinal transit (approximately 2–3 days) of the pharmaceutical product and absorption of the API. Blood sampling up to 72 hours following administration should be carried out, unless shorter periods can be justified.’


The European Note for Guidance on BE (which is currently under revision – internal draft #8) will also limit the last sampling time point to 72 h.

Currently the only country I know giving some strange recommendations (i.e., no truncation for HVDs) is the FDA, stating (in Section VI.C):

‘[…] we recommend that sample collection time be adequate to ensure completion of gastro­in­tes­tinal transit (approximately 2 to 3 days) of the drug product and absorption of the drug substance. Cmax and a suitably truncated AUC can be used to characterize peak and total drug exposure, respectively. For drugs that demonstrate low intrasubject variability in distribution and clearance, an AUC truncated at 72 hours (AUC0-72hr) can be used in place of AUC0-t or AUC0-inf. For drugs demonstrating high intrasubject variability in distribution and clearance, AUC truncation warrants caution. In such cases, we also recommend that sponsors and/or applicants consult the appropriate review staff.’


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2008-05-23 10:52
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 AUC truncated at 72 hours

Dear HS,

❝ No; last sample = 72 hours ...


Full ACK.
But if you go not to Turkey. Also it is a fine land for holidays I am told.

There we have experienced repeatedly requests from the authority or their assessors to sample up to 216 h for long half-life drugs.

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Detlew
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2008-05-23 16:09
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 AUC truncated at 72 hours

Dear DLabes!

❝ But if you go not to Turkey.

❝ There we have experienced repeatedly requests from the authority or their assessors to sample up to 216 h for long half-life drugs.


Oh, this is very bad news!
Obviously at my BE workshop in Istanbul I failed in persuading MoH regulators that truncated AUC is a reasonable approach... :-(
The ominous ‘MoH Circular’ from Jan 2006 states:
  • Sampling
    The sampling time should cover at least three or more times the terminal half-life of the
       active substance.
    Sampling should be done frequently enough to express Cmax and the terminal elimination
       phase.

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