Nirali ★ India, 2007-09-21 08:26 (6479 d 23:04 ago) Posting: # 1104 Views: 6,595 |
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Dear Group Members, Is calculation of 90%CI required for AUCINF while doing ANVISA submission for 72hrs truncated single dose, crossover BE study? Product has long half life-70hrs. Therefore planned to truncate AUC upto 72hrs. ANVISA guideline has not clearly mentioned that 90%CI for AUCINF is required or not, for the same. Would you pls explain the importance of AUCINF in 72hrs-truncated BE study? Thanks & Regards, Nirali |
Helmut ★★★ ![]() ![]() Vienna, Austria, 2007-09-21 15:26 (6479 d 16:04 ago) @ Nirali Posting: # 1110 Views: 5,643 |
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Dear Nirali! ❝ Is calculation of 90%CI required for AUCINF while doing ANVISA submission ❝ for 72hrs truncated single dose, crossover BE study? IMHO, it's neither necessary (ANVISA 896/03, Annex, Section n) 'in the case of drugs presenting long elimination half life (over 24 hours), an alternative collection schedule may be used, of up to 72 hours, allowing the determination of the area under the fragmented curve (ASC0-72), or a parallel study.' and (ANVISA 1170/06, Anexo, Section q)'no caso de fármacos que apresentam meia-vida de eliminação longa (superior a 24 horas), poderá ser utilizado um cronograma de coletas alternativo, no mínimo de 72 horas, que possibilite a determinação da área sob a curva truncada (ASC0-72), ou um estudo paralelo;' ...❝ Product has long half life-70hrs. Therefore planned to truncate AUC upto ❝ 72hrs. ANVISA guideline has not clearly mentioned that 90%CI for AUCINF is ❝ required or not, for the same. ... nor possible at all in your case. How would you extrapolate? With such a half-life you never will be able to get a least 3 sampling points in the terminal phase! ❝ Would you pls explain the importance of AUCINF in 72hrs-truncated BE ❝ study? Zero. The idea behind truncated AUC is not extrapolating. It has been demonstrated that for t > 2-3×tmax the outcome (PE, CI) does not essentially change, with the exception that variability increases (i.e., the CI becomes wider). The higher variability is caused by the uncertainty in extrapolation (concentrations appoaching the limit of quantitation). This is also the rationale behind many Guidances (Europe, ASEAN States, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa,...) where AUClast (not AUCinf!) is the primary metric for total exposure. 72h have their origin in the maximum observed residence time in the GI tract. — Dif-tor heh smusma 🖖🏼 Довге життя Україна! ![]() Helmut Schütz ![]() The quality of responses received is directly proportional to the quality of the question asked. 🚮 Science Quotes |
Nirali ★ India, 2007-09-22 19:53 (6478 d 11:37 ago) @ Helmut Posting: # 1115 Views: 5,296 |
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Thank You, Mr. Helmut. Regards, Nirali |
Nirali ★ India, 2007-09-25 09:29 (6475 d 22:01 ago) @ Helmut Posting: # 1126 Views: 5,257 |
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Dear Helmut, what will be appropriate truncated sampling time points, if half life of drug is around 70 hrs? Thanks & Regards, Nirali |
Helmut ★★★ ![]() ![]() Vienna, Austria, 2007-09-25 15:33 (6475 d 15:57 ago) @ Nirali Posting: # 1133 Views: 5,471 |
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Dear Nirali! ❝ what will be appropriate truncated sampling time points, if half life of ❝ drug is around 70 hrs? You may use the algorithm presented in this post. I would set the first sampling time point t(1) to the expected tmax andthe last sampling time point t(n) to 72 hours.— Dif-tor heh smusma 🖖🏼 Довге життя Україна! ![]() Helmut Schütz ![]() The quality of responses received is directly proportional to the quality of the question asked. 🚮 Science Quotes |
Purav ● 2007-09-27 08:35 (6473 d 22:55 ago) (edited on 2007-09-27 10:22) @ Helmut Posting: # 1136 Views: 5,287 |
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Dear Helmut, it is quite informative. but please correct me if I have wrongly interpreted. in this case we are going to truncate AUC up to 72 hours and also take samples up to 72 hours only? please reply. Purav Edit: Full quote removed. Please see this post ! [Ohlbe] |
Ohlbe ★★★ France, 2007-09-27 12:25 (6473 d 19:05 ago) @ Purav Posting: # 1137 Views: 5,182 |
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Dear Purav, ❝ in this case we are going to truncate AUC up to 72 hours and also take ❝ samples up to 72 hours only? Yes. Why take samples for more than 72 hours if you are not going to use them for AUC calculation? Regards Ohlbe |