Potvin (and beyond?) [RSABE / ABEL]

posted by Helmut Homepage – Vienna, Austria, 2012-10-28 16:59 (4625 d 22:35 ago) – Posting: # 9477
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Dear Ben!

❝ From your given example, let's say we plan with the primary/reasonable assumption CV=20% and start with n1=24. The fixed design would require a sample size of 20 (sampleN.TOST(CV=0.2, alpha=0.05, targetpower=0.8)), correct?


Yes; power 83.5%.

❝ What do you mean by "total sample sizes 10-20% higher"?


The full quote from the end of Potvin’s discussion section:

There is some cost to using a two-stage design when the a priori variance assumption is correct. If the initial sample size, n1, is too small for the actual CV, the average total sample size for the two-stage design will be about 20% higher than that for the single stage design with a correct choice of CV for determining the sample size.

Since the grid (sample size multiples of 12 and CVs multiples of 10%) was too coarse for my taste I repeated the simulations with a narrower grid (exact power instead of the shifted t). Potvin’s target (besides maintaining the patient’s risk) was to keep power >80% within the entire framework – which they almost met. See slide 61: With the exception of combinations of small n1 and high CV in the upper left corner power was >80%. For n1 24 and 20% power is 88.1%.

❝ In case the CV turns out to be different and we have to go to stage two …


Power will be higher than the 83.5% in fixed design, because in 8.6% of cases we proceed to the second stage and are able to show BE then. So we pay a penalty but gain power (88.1%).

❝ … or compared to the case where we stop after stage 1? In the former, doesn't it depend on the different CV?


I’m not sure whether I understand you here. If the CV turns out to be ≤20%, we have to distinguish between Method B and C – I will concentrate on B here. If CV is 20% the study has to be evaluated for BE at 0.0294 (remember we planned like a fixed design with 0.05). Whether it passes/fails here is difficult to predict: We have some headroom because the fixed sample design with 0.0294 in 24 gives 83.6% power. Also the PE may be closer to 1. If we pass and the PE is 0.95 the penalty is 20% (24/20). If the CV is lower, the penalty is higher (but this is also the case in a fixed design – we pass and have wasted money).

❝ E.g. CV=30% as you said, then we would require sampleN.TOST(alpha=0.0294, CV=0.3)-24 = 24 additional subjects and hence it's 100% higher …


Yes, that’s how it works. But it doesn’t make sense to say “it's 100% higher”. If in the fixed design (assumed 20%) the CV is 30% and you run the study in 24, power will be only 55.8% (power.TOST(CV=0.3, n=24)).

❝ … (or using the mean total n from Table II: 39.9/24 = 1.6625). In the latter case we would have 20% (24/20 = 1.2) but is it reasonable to talk about "total" here?


Here again we are in the trap of comparing one particular study to the average of 106 simulated ones. Also you are comparing the wrong row of the table. You should stay at n1 24 and CV 20%. The simulations were run with T/R 0.95 and the given CVs with lognormal error. So with a target of 20%, for sure there were a few studies with only 5% and some with 50%. Average ntotal was 24.6 (5th, 50th, 95th percentiles: 24, 24, 28). On the average for this scenario the penalty is 24.6/24 = +2.5%. Only in 5% of cases the penalty was +16.7%. For an overview of penalties see slide 63. On the average (!) it’s not that bad.

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