Maybe – but why? [RSABE / ABEL]
❝ nice slides
THX!
❝ Now, my question is whether this approach using the 95% upper limit can also be rephrased (equivalently) in an "easier" way, that is, in terms of 90% CI must fall within exp(± k*σWR) (using just a different k). On these slides from the FDA it seems that it is the same as scaling the acceptance range using k=0.893. Is it really equivalent?
First see this thread and the references within. Also a recent paper:
Karalis V, Symillides M, P Macheras P. Bioequivalence of Highly Variable Drugs: A Comparison of the Newly Proposed Regulatory Approaches by FDA and EMA. Pharm Res. 2012;29(4): 1066–77. doi:10.1007/s11095-011-0651-y
FDA’s switching condition θs is ~0.893 – based on a standardized variation σ0 of 0.25: ln(1.25)/0.25 ~ 0.89257… In principle you are right that the scaled limits could be derived according to U,L = e±0.893·σWR, but applied only if CVWR>30% – which leads to the nice discontinuity at CV 30%:
CV% L U
30 0.8000 1.2500
30.00001 0.7694 1.2997
Now for the tricky part. Which model would you use to obtain CVWR (or σWR)? FDA wants to see SAS Proc GLM for the partial replicate (scaled) and SAS Proc Mixed for the full replicate and both designs in (unscaled) ABE. From EMA’s (in)famous ‘data set I’ we obtain with FDA’s RSABE code CVWR 46.96% (sWR 0.4464) and with the ABE code CVWR 47.33% (sWR 0.4496). I guess we should use the former. From the intra-subject contrasts of T vs. R ‘
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’ we can not only derive the PE, but also its CI: CVWR sWR L U PE 90% CI
RSABE code 46.96% 0.4464 0.6712 1.4899 1.1546 1.0639 1.2531
ABE code 47.33% 0.4496 0.6693 1.4940 1.1566 1.0710 1.2489
Counter-question: Why would you attempt that?
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Science Quotes
Complete thread:
- Replicate Design: Scaling FDA Ben 2012-10-23 11:32 [RSABE / ABEL]
- Maybe – but why?Helmut 2012-10-23 15:35
- Maybe – but why? Ben 2012-10-23 16:03
- Got it. Helmut 2012-10-23 16:23
- FDA Mixed up d_labes 2012-10-23 16:23
- FDA Mixed up Helmut 2012-10-23 16:34
- Maybe – but why? Ben 2012-10-27 17:04
- Maybe – but why? Helmut 2012-10-27 17:57
- Maybe – but why? Ben 2012-10-28 13:57
- Potvin (and beyond?) Helmut 2012-10-28 15:59
- Potvin (and beyond?) Ben 2012-11-01 10:17
- Potvin (and beyond?) Helmut 2012-10-28 15:59
- Maybe – but why? Ben 2012-10-28 13:57
- Maybe – but why? Helmut 2012-10-27 17:57
- Maybe – but why? Ben 2012-10-23 16:03
- Maybe – but why?Helmut 2012-10-23 15:35