Potvin C or B? [Two-Stage / GS Designs]
Hi HS,
Very good point and I like what you are hinting at.
Defaulting to 0.0294 whenever the word "two-stage" pops up is an understandable thing to do today although I'd like to see that change tomorrow. In the absence of more papers discussing the two-stage designs I can't imagine the change will happen quickly.
I guess I will store it mentally along with the likes of 2.9979×108 m/s and 6.626×10-34 Js, and I will call it "Pt" for 'Pocock's universial two-stage constant'. Communication and education is necessary.
Let N1 be the number of subjects in stage 1, let a1, a2 be the two alphas and E the overall type I error rate, let CV be the coefficient of variation and T:R the test:ref ratio.
Then:
Furthermore, the crackpot paper demonstrated that given for any set of (a1, N1, CV, T:R) we can identify an a2 which keeps E under 0.05 or whatever level is deemed useful.
Hey, next time they call from IQPC or Informa I will suggest such a talk in an upcoming conference.
I can imagine. Coffee breaks don't get better than that.
❝ Do you think that they know/understand the context of Pocock’s original 0.0294 (superiority testing, parallel groups, fixed total sample size k, normal distribution – Z, known and equal σ², interim look at k/2)?
Very good point and I like what you are hinting at.
Defaulting to 0.0294 whenever the word "two-stage" pops up is an understandable thing to do today although I'd like to see that change tomorrow. In the absence of more papers discussing the two-stage designs I can't imagine the change will happen quickly.
I guess I will store it mentally along with the likes of 2.9979×108 m/s and 6.626×10-34 Js, and I will call it "Pt" for 'Pocock's universial two-stage constant'. Communication and education is necessary.
Let N1 be the number of subjects in stage 1, let a1, a2 be the two alphas and E the overall type I error rate, let CV be the coefficient of variation and T:R the test:ref ratio.
Then:
- For the two meffuds B and C, can we produce proof that E is a function of (or varies with / is not a constant of) a1, a2, N1, CV, T:R?
- If the answer is yes, can we prove that substituting a1 for Pt in method B does not ensure that E stays below 0.05 universally?
Furthermore, the crackpot paper demonstrated that given for any set of (a1, N1, CV, T:R) we can identify an a2 which keeps E under 0.05 or whatever level is deemed useful.
Hey, next time they call from IQPC or Informa I will suggest such a talk in an upcoming conference.
❝ (...) the topic in one thirds of the chats I had in the coffee-breaks of this week’s workshop in Budapest.
I can imagine. Coffee breaks don't get better than that.
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Pass or fail!
ElMaestro
Pass or fail!
ElMaestro
Complete thread:
- Potvin C or B? Helmut 2012-06-02 18:54 [Two-Stage / GS Designs]
- Belive in Potvin C? d_labes 2012-06-04 10:34
- Potvin C or B? ElMaestro 2012-06-05 11:45
- Potvin C or B? Helmut 2012-06-07 15:45
- Potvin C or B?ElMaestro 2012-06-07 17:01
- Potvin C or B? Helmut 2012-06-07 18:28
- Potvin C or B?ElMaestro 2012-06-07 17:01
- Potvin C or B? Helmut 2012-06-07 15:45