Thanks for clarifying [Power / Sample Size]
Thanks for the quick reply!
❝ ❝ On slide 31 from Helmut's lecture it's written that exact methods rely on AS 243 (or AS 184). I thought the exact method stands for solving the integral defined by Owens Q function (see also this post); but AS 243 (and AS 184) are algorithms to compute cumulative probabilities of the noncentral t-distribution (aren't they?) and hence are only applicable in the case where the approximation via noncentral t-distribution is being used. So one cannot talk about using the exact method and AS 243 in one sentence.
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❝ Well, I could. I must confess that my wording might be confusing. I used ‘exact’ in a sense of numerically approximating Owen’s solution.
Ok, got it. Thanks for clarifiying.
❝ ❝ Or am I wrong here?
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❝ Not at all.
Puh! Good

❝ Owen’s method is no algo. Unfortunately nothing is stated in the manual (neither in v7 nor in v5).
I don't have the paper from Owen, so I cannot tell. But thanks for letting me know; so the wording "an algorithm due to Owen" in the manual is not the best one... Yes, unfortunately it is not clear what nQuery does.
❝ ❝ Another thing is: AS 184 is older than AS 243, but is it worse?
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❝ Good question. Next question.

❝ Interesting! But as I said above right now I cannot confirm which algo R. Lenth implemented into FARTSSIE. David’s statement ‘Dr. Russel Lenth generously provided the library subroutines to calculate non-central distributions (NCt)’ is not telling. See also the end of this post. Maybe VBA runs into trouble at T/R=1; have to dig out Dieter’s paper (can’t promise – piles are high).
Ok, I got your point. As an alternative to FARTSSIE, isn't R using AS 243 for sure? At least this result (meaning 66.674%) is confirmed by using PowerTOST with method=noncentral.
Complete thread:
- Exact and approximate method Ben 2012-03-02 15:12 [Power / Sample Size]
- Sorry for the confusion caused Helmut 2012-03-02 17:21
- Thanks for clarifyingBen 2012-03-02 18:14
- Owen’s Q (Anders, are you there?) Helmut 2012-03-02 19:38
- Owen’s Q Ben 2012-03-03 13:35
- Exact or not, that‘s the question Helmut 2012-03-03 15:34
- Owen’s Q implementation issues d_labes 2012-03-13 12:01
- Owen’s Q implementation issues Ben 2012-03-13 21:52
- Owen’s Q Ben 2012-03-03 13:35
- Owen’s Q (Anders, are you there?) Helmut 2012-03-02 19:38
- Sorry for the confusion caused ElMaestro 2012-03-04 21:56
- Sorry for the confusion caused Helmut 2012-03-05 01:57
- AS 184 without wasting bucks d_labes 2012-03-05 15:28
- Thanks for clarifyingBen 2012-03-02 18:14
- PowerTOST_0.9-4 on CRAN now d_labes 2012-03-05 15:17
- Sorry for the confusion caused Helmut 2012-03-02 17:21