Validation necessary [Power / Sample Size]
Dear Yung-jin,
Unfortunately Julious has not given worked examples in his book considering the case of uncertain variance.
But he has given Inflation factors (factors to multiply the classical "carved in stone" sample sizes) on page 115.
Here an excerpt with the usual powers:
But they are only for the case that the assumed true ratio is 1.
As you can see up to df(=m) around 75 there is still approximately a 5% higher sample size compared to the classical calculation depending on alpha, beta. How big this excess is for the true ratio assumed !=1 can be answered using the code supplied above.
Note also the nearly doubling of the sample size for df=5 corresponding roughly to a CV from a pilot with 6 subjects!
"He who comes too late will be punished by life."
(Michail Gorbatschow in 1989 to Erich Honnecker shortly before the opening of the Berlin Wall)
Julious has not given much details, not to say nearly nothing, about the theory behind his formulas. But I think its sort of Bayesian reasoning. Expected power (aka some sort of average) seems the power averaged over the distribution of the variability namely a chi-squared distribution we (Helmut) up to now used in sensitivity analysis aka upper confidence limit.
❝ ... I just wonder if there is any way to
❝ VALIDATE (or how to validate) this method
Unfortunately Julious has not given worked examples in his book considering the case of uncertain variance.
But he has given Inflation factors (factors to multiply the classical "carved in stone" sample sizes) on page 115.
Here an excerpt with the usual powers:
------- alpha ---------
m beta 0.010 0.025 0.050 0.100
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5 0.10 2.167 2.068 1.980 1.875
0.20 1.776 1.711 1.652 1.581
10 0.10 1.463 1.425 1.392 1.353
0.20 1.328 1.301 1.276 1.248
25 0.10 1.163 1.150 1.139 1.125
0.20 1.119 1.109 1.101 1.091
50 0.10 1.078 1.072 1.067 1.060
0.20 1.058 1.053 1.049 1.044
75 0.10 1.052 1.047 1.044 1.040
0.20 1.038 1.035 1.032 1.029
100 0.10 1.038 1.035 1.033 1.030
0.20 1.029 1.026 1.024 1.022
But they are only for the case that the assumed true ratio is 1.
❝ ... imprecise/uncertain CV (how imprecise can it be allowed?) ...
As you can see up to df(=m) around 75 there is still approximately a 5% higher sample size compared to the classical calculation depending on alpha, beta. How big this excess is for the true ratio assumed !=1 can be answered using the code supplied above.
Note also the nearly doubling of the sample size for df=5 corresponding roughly to a CV from a pilot with 6 subjects!

❝ ... But I'll late. I was thinking the possibility to solve
❝ this using Bayesian inference approach recently.
"He who comes too late will be punished by life."

(Michail Gorbatschow in 1989 to Erich Honnecker shortly before the opening of the Berlin Wall)
Julious has not given much details, not to say nearly nothing, about the theory behind his formulas. But I think its sort of Bayesian reasoning. Expected power (aka some sort of average) seems the power averaged over the distribution of the variability namely a chi-squared distribution we (Helmut) up to now used in sensitivity analysis aka upper confidence limit.
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Regards,
Detlew
Regards,
Detlew
Complete thread:
- Power and sample size with 'uncertain' CV d_labes 2010-04-07 10:04 [Power / Sample Size]
- Power and sample size with 'uncertain' CV - part II d_labes 2010-04-07 10:41
- Helper for rescue d_labes 2010-04-07 14:43
- Power and sample size with 'uncertain' CV yjlee168 2010-04-08 09:10
- Validation necessaryd_labes 2010-04-08 10:04
- Scarcely validation d_labes 2010-04-08 13:36
- Power and sample size with 'uncertain' CV - part II d_labes 2010-04-07 10:41