Parallel designs: Don’t use the (conventional) t-test! [Power / Sample Size]

posted by Helmut Homepage – Vienna, Austria, 2022-05-17 16:17 (703 d 06:15 ago) – Posting: # 22994
Views: 2,171

Hi Sereng,

❝ […] the reference drug Cmax had almost twice the CV of the Test drug.

❝ Parallel Group Design

❝ Two Groups (n=70/group)

❝ Ratio (90% CI): 109.00 (87.00-135.00)


Since in this post (based on the t-test assuming equal variances) I could reproduce your results:
According to the FDA’s guidance (Section IV.B.1.d.):

For parallel designs, the confidence interval for the difference of means in the log scale can be computed using the total between-subject variance.1 […] equal variances should not be assumed.
    (my emphasis)


Though you had equally sized groups, variances were not equal.
This calls for the Welch-test with Satter­th­waite’s approximation2 of the degrees of freedom:3,4 $$\eqalign{\nu&\approx\frac{\left(\frac{s_1^2}{n_1}+\frac{s_2^2}{n_2}\right)^2}{\frac{s_1^4}{n_1^2\,(n_1-1)} + \frac{s_2^4}{n_2^2\,(n_2-1)}}\\
&\approx\frac{\left(\frac{s_1^2}{n_1}+\frac{s_2^2}{n_2}\right)^2}{\frac{1}{n_1-1}\left(\frac{s_1^2}{n_1}\right)^2 + \frac{1}{n_2-1}\left(\frac{s_2^2}{n_2}\right)^2}}
$$ For good reasons in [image], SAS, and other software packages it is the default.In SPSS both the conventional t-test and the Welch-test are performed. Always use the second row of the table of results.

@Divyen: If the confidence interval based on my derivation does not match the reported one, it is evident that the Welch-test was used. In such a case calculating the \(\small{MSE}\) is not that trivial. Maybe I will try it later.


  1. Misleading terminology. There is no ‘total between-subject variance’. In a parallel design only the total vari­ance – which is pooled from the between- and within-subject variances – is accessible.
  2. Satterthwaite FE. An Approximate Distribution of Estimates of Variance Components. Biom Bull. 1946; 2(6): 110–4. doi:10.2307/3002019.
  3. Both formulas are given in the literature. They are equivalent.
  4. Allwood M. The Satterthwaite Formula for Degrees of Freedom in the Two-Sample t-Test. College Board. 2008. [image] Open access.
  5. Zimmermann DW. A note on preliminary tests of equality of variances. Br J Math Stat Psychol. 2004; 57(1): 173–81. doi:10.1348/000711004849222.

Dif-tor heh smusma 🖖🏼 Довге життя Україна! [image]
Helmut Schütz
[image]

The quality of responses received is directly proportional to the quality of the question asked. 🚮
Science Quotes

Complete thread:

UA Flag
Activity
 Admin contact
22,988 posts in 4,825 threads, 1,661 registered users;
102 visitors (0 registered, 102 guests [including 4 identified bots]).
Forum time: 22:32 CEST (Europe/Vienna)

The only way to comprehend what mathematicians mean by Infinity
is to contemplate the extent of human stupidity.    Voltaire

The Bioequivalence and Bioavailability Forum is hosted by
BEBAC Ing. Helmut Schütz
HTML5