Know your drug/formulation! [Power / Sample Size]
Dear Astea et al.,
first of all I fully agree with Mittyri. Instead of “gut feeling” I prefer common sense.
I try not to think with my gut.
If I’m serious about understanding the world,
thinking with anything besides my brain, as tempting as that might be,
is likely to get me into trouble.
Carl Sagan. The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark; Ch. 11: The Dragon in My Garage (1995)
Before we apply any statistical method we have to understand the data generating process. In our field the two most forgotten prerequisites are: Knowing the drug (PK/PD properties) and its formulation (biopharmaceutics). Having information about the clinical setting and bioanalytics is useful as well. Some examples (apart form the ones already given by Mittyri) where pooling is not a good idea:
first of all I fully agree with Mittyri. Instead of “gut feeling” I prefer common sense.
I try not to think with my gut.
If I’m serious about understanding the world,
thinking with anything besides my brain, as tempting as that might be,
is likely to get me into trouble.
Carl Sagan. The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark; Ch. 11: The Dragon in My Garage (1995)
Before we apply any statistical method we have to understand the data generating process. In our field the two most forgotten prerequisites are: Knowing the drug (PK/PD properties) and its formulation (biopharmaceutics). Having information about the clinical setting and bioanalytics is useful as well. Some examples (apart form the ones already given by Mittyri) where pooling is not a good idea:
- Mixing studies in fasting and fed state. In the latter case the CV generally (but not always) is higher than in the former.
- Whilst pooling CVs of IR-formulations (say tablets and capsules) generally is not problematic, I would be cautious with MR-formulations of different types (say pellets/capsules and monolithic tablets).
- Highly metabolized drugs at a dosage near the limit of saturation. If the GMR is not very close to 1, the CV might be inflated.
- Including studies with LC/MS-MS methods at its infancy (protein precipitation without stable-isotope internal standardization). In the early 2000s studies failed because they were planned based on CVs from earlier studies obtained with e.g., fluorescence detection. The matrix effect hit (CV went through the ceiling) and studies were underpowered.
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Helmut Schütz
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Complete thread:
- Why do we need pooled CV? BE-proff 2016-08-24 08:48 [Power / Sample Size]
- Maximum CV might be misleading Helmut 2016-08-24 12:07
- Maximum CV might be misleading BE-proff 2016-08-26 10:41
- Pooling – example Helmut 2016-08-26 11:34
- Pooling – example BE-proff 2016-12-28 14:37
- in my protocols… Helmut 2016-12-29 12:27
- Pooling – example BE-proff 2016-12-28 14:37
- Pooling – example Helmut 2016-08-26 11:34
- Maximum CV might be misleading BE-proff 2016-08-26 10:41
- Why do we need pooled CV? ElMaestro 2016-08-24 13:03
- Yessir! Common sense! Helmut 2016-08-24 13:53
- Common sense weighting before pooling mittyri 2016-08-24 15:13
- Gut feeling is the answer! DavidManteigas 2016-08-25 11:09
- The reasons not to pool Astea 2016-08-26 20:40
- The reasons not to pool mittyri 2016-08-28 22:05
- Know your drug/formulation!Helmut 2016-08-29 11:56
- The reasons not to pool Astea 2016-08-26 20:40
- Yessir! Common sense! Helmut 2016-08-24 13:53
- Maximum CV might be misleading Helmut 2016-08-24 12:07