Degrees of freedom 3-period full replicate [RSABE / ABEL]
Hi d_labes,
❝ -subject(sequence) 72 72
I would like to offer an alternative view here:
DF=0 for sequence may be correct cf. the ordinary interpretation of type III SS and the use of the bogus statement.
What I absolutely do not get is that 72+1+34 is supposed to give 108? Or what am I overlooking, perhaps this is just the power to confuse.
❝ Your SAS code according to the EMA crippled model with Proc GLM gives:
❝ degrees of freedom
❝ source type I type III
❝ subject 73 72
❝ -subject(sequence) 72 72
❝ period 1 1
❝ error 34 34
❝ total 108 108
❝ The type III df=0 for sequence or the changing df for subjects effects illustrates the typical mess with the EMA model.
I would like to offer an alternative view here:
DF=0 for sequence may be correct cf. the ordinary interpretation of type III SS and the use of the bogus statement.
What I absolutely do not get is that 72+1+34 is supposed to give 108? Or what am I overlooking, perhaps this is just the power to confuse.
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Pass or fail!
ElMaestro
Pass or fail!
ElMaestro
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