Linear model and Fieller… [Power / Sample Size]
Hi Anu,
please don’t fork; sounds like your previous thread.
Are you sure you know what you are doing? I would not call P-excretion a PD measurement (though it might be an effect, you have still to deal with concentrations/amounts). Whether amount excreted follows a normal distribution or lognormal is subject of heated debates. Personally I tend towards the former.
You didn’t give units. Normal ranges of P in 24 h-urine are 0.8–1.6 mmol/L (2.5–4.9 mg/dL). If you assume a normal distribution, you should apply an additive model (untransformed data) and (!) state the acceptance range in absolute values – not percent (I have no idea, maybe –0.75 mg/dL, +0.75 mg/dL). So what was stated in the protocol? If you want to deal with percentages and still assume normal distributed data, you have to go with Fieller’s confidence interval (then the acceptance range would be 80–125%). For some references see this thread.
please don’t fork; sounds like your previous thread.
❝ A crossover study with 21 subjects. It was Average daily Urinary analysis study with phosphorus as a component.
❝ Bioequivalence assessment using pharmacodynamics:
❝ 1. Test-Reference= -0.69
❝ 2. 90 % CI = -1.07 to -0.30 which is in the limit of ( -20 to 20) %
Are you sure you know what you are doing? I would not call P-excretion a PD measurement (though it might be an effect, you have still to deal with concentrations/amounts). Whether amount excreted follows a normal distribution or lognormal is subject of heated debates. Personally I tend towards the former.
You didn’t give units. Normal ranges of P in 24 h-urine are 0.8–1.6 mmol/L (2.5–4.9 mg/dL). If you assume a normal distribution, you should apply an additive model (untransformed data) and (!) state the acceptance range in absolute values – not percent (I have no idea, maybe –0.75 mg/dL, +0.75 mg/dL). So what was stated in the protocol? If you want to deal with percentages and still assume normal distributed data, you have to go with Fieller’s confidence interval (then the acceptance range would be 80–125%). For some references see this thread.
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Complete thread:
- Sample Size Anu 2013-09-04 07:03 [Power / Sample Size]
- Sample Size Dr_Dan 2013-09-04 09:52
- Linear model and Fieller…Helmut 2013-09-04 13:20
- Linear model and Fieller… jag009 2013-09-04 17:23
- Linear model and Fieller… Anu 2013-10-04 13:16
- Linear model and 80–120% Helmut 2013-10-04 15:20
- Linear model and 80–120% Anu 2013-10-07 09:59
- CVintra < CVtotal? Helmut 2013-10-07 14:14
- Linear model and 80–120% Anu 2013-10-07 09:59
- Linear model and 80–120% Helmut 2013-10-04 15:20
- Linear model and Fieller… Anu 2013-10-04 13:16
- Linear model and Fieller… jag009 2013-09-04 17:23