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Darborn ☆ Taiwan, 2025-10-14 07:34 (251 d 01:22 ago) Posting: # 24450 Views: 3,079 |
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Hi everyone, When calculating AUC0–∞, I know some regulatory agencies use extrapolation while others use the actual value. For a long half-life product truncated at 72 hours, should I use AUC0–t or AUC0–72 for bioequivalence assessment? I think these two value may differ when 72h has a LLOQ.Thank you! Edit: Category changed; see also this post #1. [Helmut] |
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Helmut ★★★ ![]() Vienna, Austria, 2025-10-14 12:30 (250 d 20:25 ago) @ Darborn Posting: # 24451 Views: 2,665 |
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Hi Darborn, ❝ When calculating AUC0–∞, I know some regulatory agencies use extrapolation while others use the actual value. For a long half-life product truncated at 72 hours, should I use AUC0–t or AUC0–72 for bioequivalence assessment? If t½ < 24 h, the primary metric is AUC0–t. You have to estimate AUC0–∞ as well but only to assess the extrapolated fraction (AUC0–t should cover ≥ 80 % of AUC0–∞ in ≥ 80 % of observations). ❝ I think these two value may differ when 72h has a LLOQ. — Dif-tor heh smusma 🖖🏼 Довге життя Україна! ![]() Helmut Schütz ![]() The quality of responses received is directly proportional to the quality of the question asked. 🚮 Science Quotes |
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Darborn ☆ Taiwan, 2025-10-16 08:05 (249 d 00:51 ago) @ Helmut Posting: # 24459 Views: 2,563 |
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Thank you Helmut, What I really mean is if the product has long half-life, Will it be acceptable using AUC0-72 with extrapolation with some LLOQ at 72h. |
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Helmut ★★★ ![]() Vienna, Austria, 2025-10-16 10:13 (248 d 22:43 ago) @ Darborn Posting: # 24460 Views: 2,543 |
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Hi Darborn, ❝ What I really mean is if the product has long half-life,… Or are you talking about a controlled release product (flip-flop PK: \(\small{k_\text{a}\le k_\text{el}}\))? In this case the later part of the profile represents absorption, we are interested in comparing formulations. For such products AUC0–72 is not acceptable.* Instead, AUC0–∞ must be assessed additionally to AUC0–t. Depending on the product’s release characteristics you may have to sample ≥ 72 h in order to get a reliable estimate of the apparent (here absorption!) half life. ❝ … Will it be acceptable using AUC0-72 with extrapolation with some LLOQ at 72h.
— Dif-tor heh smusma 🖖🏼 Довге життя Україна! ![]() Helmut Schütz ![]() The quality of responses received is directly proportional to the quality of the question asked. 🚮 Science Quotes |
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Darborn ☆ Taiwan, 2025-10-17 07:16 (248 d 01:40 ago) @ Helmut Posting: # 24463 Views: 2,472 |
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Thank you Helmut, I get it ![]() |
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ElMaestro ★★★ Denmark, 2025-10-15 19:41 (249 d 13:15 ago) @ Darborn Posting: # 24457 Views: 2,633 |
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Hi Darborn, ❝ When calculating AUC0–∞, I know some regulatory agencies use extrapolation while others use the actual value. I am not sure I understood this sentence. ❝ For a long half-life product truncated at 72 hours, should I use AUC0–t or AUC0–72 for bioequivalence assessment? When you intend to evaluate BE by truncated AUC, like AUC0-72 then you have some options, and I imagine this is the reason you ask. 1. For a profile with BLQs at the end you can do 1a. Let AUC0-72=AUCt 1b. Extrapolation, which can be linear or log-based from the least measurable points in the elim phase. I have seen both 1a and 1b accepted recently. Funnily enough if you do linear extrapolation, you may get negative concentrations on the extrapolated part depending on how ugly your data is. I have seen it accepted nonetheless. 2. For a profile where the last sample is not exactly 72hrs but measurable (ambulatory subjects are particularly unreliable when it comes to showing up on time), you can do: 2a. Let AUC0-72=AUCt 2b. Inter- or extrapolation, which can be linear or log-based from the least measurable points in the elim phase. This also seems to be accepted as far as I can tell. At the end of the day, in BE we do not really care much if a profile can be said to be biased, rather we just want T/R estimates to be unbiased or at least have no arguments in favour of bias on the ratio. So, as long as all profiles are treated in the same fashion, it is difficult for a regulator to argue that the ratio end up being biased. Therefore the various flavours and colors of AUC0-72 are accepted even if something looks odd in someone's opinion from the perspective of a single profile. — Pass or fail! ElMaestro |
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Darborn ☆ Taiwan, 2025-10-16 08:00 (249 d 00:55 ago) @ ElMaestro Posting: # 24458 Views: 2,547 |
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So the point is to use the same method in treating all profiles. Thank you ElMaestro. |
I think these two value may differ when 72h has a LLOQ.
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