Shatha ☆ 2022-03-20 15:51 (1035 d 06:47 ago) Posting: # 22844 Views: 3,211 |
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Hello My question is related to Health Canada guidance for industry: Conduct and Analysis of Bioavailability and Bioequivalence Studies - Part B: Oral Modified Release Formulations: For the data mentioned in Table 11-T, I performed the potency correction calculations for Cmax and AUCT. The results were identical except for Cmax 90% CI Upper limit (my calculations: 91%, guidance: 99%). I think that the value " 99%" isn't correct in the guidance itself. Any feedback on this issue, please. The calculations related to uncorrected data were identical to table 11-L and 11-I. Thank you. |
Helmut ★★★ Vienna, Austria, 2022-03-20 16:08 (1035 d 06:30 ago) @ Shatha Posting: # 22845 Views: 2,703 |
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Hi Shatha, this guidance (of 1996!) is hopelessly outdated and notorious for typos… The current one is of 2018. Why are you interested in reproducing such stuff? If for validation purposes, consider this series of articles instead:
Edit: Just checked Cmax of TABLE 11-T. You are correct.$$\small{\{L,U\}=100\exp(-0.2708+0.0360\,\mp 1.812\times0.0799)\approx \{68.41\%,91.39\%\}}$$Not rocket science. — Dif-tor heh smusma 🖖🏼 Довге життя Україна! Helmut Schütz The quality of responses received is directly proportional to the quality of the question asked. 🚮 Science Quotes |
Shatha ☆ 2022-03-20 16:57 (1035 d 05:40 ago) @ Helmut Posting: # 22846 Views: 2,643 |
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❝ this guidance (of 1996!) is hopelessly outdated and notorious for typos… The current one is of 2018. Ok, thank you. So, correction for potency is no longer described in Canadian guidelines? ❝ Why are you interested in reproducing such stuff? For Validation purposes. ❝ If for validation purposes, consider this series of articles instead:
Thank you for the provided references, but I need data to validate potency correction equations. Edit: Standard quotes restored; see also this post #8. [Helmut] |
Helmut ★★★ Vienna, Austria, 2022-03-20 17:32 (1035 d 05:05 ago) @ Shatha Posting: # 22848 Views: 2,657 |
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Hi Shata, ❝ So, correction for potency is no longer described in Canadian guidelines? Yep, gone with the wind. Somewhat surprising because even the EMA accepts a potency-correction if you provide evidence that it was not possible to obtain a reference which differs ≤ 5% from the test. ❝ Thank you for the provided references, but I need data to validate potency correction equations. Well, the formula given in Health Canada’s old guidance(s) is correct. In the example instead of \(\small{0.0360}\) plug in \(\small{\log_{e}\tfrac{Potency_\textrm{ R}}{Potency_{\,\textrm{ T}}}}\). Alternatively, multiply all dose-related PK metrics (Cmax, AUC) of \(\small{\textrm{T}}\) with \(\small{Potency_\textrm{ R}}\) and the ones of \(\small{\textrm{R}}\) with \(\small{Potency_\textrm{ T}}\). Perform the comparison with the corrected values and you should obtain the same result than with the correction formula. — Dif-tor heh smusma 🖖🏼 Довге життя Україна! Helmut Schütz The quality of responses received is directly proportional to the quality of the question asked. 🚮 Science Quotes |
Shatha ☆ 2022-03-21 11:02 (1034 d 11:36 ago) @ Helmut Posting: # 22852 Views: 2,550 |
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❝ Well, the formula given in Health Canada’s old guidance(s) is correct. In the example instead of \(\small{0.0360}\) plug in \(\small{\log_{e}\tfrac{Potency_\textrm{ R}}{Potency_{\,\textrm{ T}}}}\). ❝ Alternatively, multiply all dose-related PK metrics (Cmax, AUC) of \(\small{\textrm{T}}\) with \(\small{Potency_\textrm{ R}}\) and the ones of \(\small{\textrm{R}}\) with \(\small{Potency_\textrm{ T}}\). Perform the comparison with the corrected values and you should obtain the same result than with the correction formula. Thank you. I performed this step for a balanced design and the results were similar. It is also applicable for unbalanced design, right? Edit: Standard quotes restored; see also this post #8. [Helmut] |
Shatha ☆ 2022-03-20 17:03 (1035 d 05:35 ago) @ Helmut Posting: # 22847 Views: 2,656 |
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❝ Edit: Just checked Cmax of TABLE 11-T. You are correct.$$\small{\{L,U\}=100\exp(-0.2708+0.0360\,\mp 1.812\times0.0799)\approx \{68.41\%,91.39\%\}}$$Not rocket science. Thank you |
Helmut ★★★ Vienna, Austria, 2022-03-20 17:57 (1035 d 04:41 ago) @ Shatha Posting: # 22849 Views: 2,670 |
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Hi Shatha, $$\small{CV_\textrm{intra}=100\sqrt{MSE}}\tag{1}$$$$\small{CV_\textrm{intra}=100\sqrt{\exp(MSE)-1}}\tag{2}$$ \(\small{(1)}\) was given in Health Canadas’ guidances of 1992 and 1996. \(\small{(1)}\) is only approximate for relatively small variances. The bias is always negative and hence, when used in sample size estimations misleading (studies will be underpowered).
It took Health Canada until 2018 to give the correct \(\small{(2)}\). Never trust in guidances. — Dif-tor heh smusma 🖖🏼 Довге життя Україна! Helmut Schütz The quality of responses received is directly proportional to the quality of the question asked. 🚮 Science Quotes |