ElMaestro ★★★ Denmark, 2021-08-23 16:42 (642 d 18:41 ago) Posting: # 22532 Views: 3,030 |
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Helmut ★★★ ![]() ![]() Vienna, Austria, 2021-08-23 17:31 (642 d 17:52 ago) @ ElMaestro Posting: # 22533 Views: 2,431 |
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Hi ElMaestro, ❝ FDA updated the canonical BE guideline for ANDAs. THX, had a quick look. ❝ Draft. What else… ![]() Main difference is that reference-scaling is detailed and not just mentioning the progesterone guidance in a footnote – like in the ![]() Progesterone guidance \(\small{\text{a. the 95% upper confidence bound for }\left(\widehat{Y}_T-\widehat{Y}_R\right)^2-\theta s_{wR}^2\text{ must be}\leq 0}\) New ANDA draft \(\small{\text{a. The 95% upper confidence bound for }\left(\widehat{Y}_T-\widehat{Y}_R\right)^2-\theta s_{wR}^2\text{ must be}\leq 0}\) We had a few discussions about rounding in RSABE in the past (here and there). In both guidances the formula is confusing. The regulatory limit \(\small{\sigma_\textrm{w0}=0.25}\) leads to the regulatory constant $$\small{\theta_\textrm{s}=\frac{\log_{e}1.25}{\sigma_\textrm{w0}}=0.89257\ldots}$$Furthermore, we need the standard error \(\small{s_\textrm{d}}\) of the point estimate \(\small{PE=\widehat{Y}_\textrm{T}-\widehat{Y}_\textrm{R}}\) given by $$\small{s_\textrm{d}=\sqrt{\frac{MSE}{seq^2}\sum{\frac{1}{n_i}}},}$$ where \(\small{MSE}\) is the residual Mean Squares Error, \(\small{seq}\) the number of sequences, and \(\small{n_i}\) are the number of subjects in sequence \(\small{i}\). According to the SAS-code (without an explanation) \(\small{s_\textrm{d}}\) acts as a bias correction and therefore,$$\small{crit=PE^2-s_\textrm{d}^2-\theta_\textrm{s}^2\cdot s_\textrm{wR}^2.}$$ Reference-scaling for NTIDs is also outlined. Again, a statement about rounding (contrary to the warfarin guidance). — Dif-tor heh smusma 🖖🏼 Довге життя Україна! ![]() Helmut Schütz ![]() The quality of responses received is directly proportional to the quality of the question asked. 🚮 Science Quotes |
Achievwin ★ US, 2021-09-08 06:09 (627 d 05:14 ago) @ Helmut Posting: # 22560 Views: 1,890 |
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❝ Furthermore, we need the standard error \(\small{s_\textrm{d}}\) of the point estimate I did not find this one in the guidance can you point out to me what line number this is in the new guidance? Edit: quote restored [Ohlbe] |
Helmut ★★★ ![]() ![]() Vienna, Austria, 2021-09-10 22:47 (624 d 12:36 ago) @ Achievwin Posting: # 22567 Views: 1,785 |
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Hi Achievwin, ❝ ❝ Furthermore, we need the standard error \(\small{s_\textrm{d}}\) of the point estimate ❝ ❝ I did not find this one in the guidance can you point out to me what line number this is in the new guidance? That’s a little bit tricky. I’ll try again. We have the regulatory constant $$\small{\theta_\textrm{s}=\frac{\log_{e}1.25}{\sigma_\textrm{w0}}=0.89257\ldots}\tag{1}$$ In the guidance line 998 the scaled average BE limit is given by $$\small{\theta\equiv\left(\frac{\log_{e}1.25}{\sigma_\textrm{w0}}\right)^2\tag{2}}$$which is simply what I used in my previous post by $$\small{\theta=\theta_\textrm{s}^2}\tag{3}$$ Of course, $$\small{\left(\widehat{Y}_T-\widehat{Y}_R\right)^2=PE^2}\tag{4}$$ In the guidance line 1003 we have $$\small{crit=\left(\widehat{Y}_T-\widehat{Y}_R\right)^2-\theta\cdot s_\textrm{wR}^2}\tag{5}$$ That’s the same as $$\small{crit=PE^2-\theta_\textrm{s}^2\cdot s_\textrm{wR}^2}\tag{6}$$Here the confusion starts. You find my \({\color{Red}{s_\textrm{d}}} \) in lines 1083 and 1219 as the stderr of the difference.In the respective next lines you find
Hence, actually not \((5)\) or \((6)\) has to be used but $$\small{\begin{matrix} crit=PE^2-{\color{Red}{s_\textrm{d}^2}}-\theta_\textrm{s}^2\cdot s_\textrm{wR}^2 =\\ \left(\widehat{Y}_T-\widehat{Y}_R\right)^2-{\color{Red}{se^2}}-\theta \cdot s_\textrm{wR}^2 \end{matrix}}\tag{7}$$ The bias correction is not mentioned anywhere in the guidance and therefore, \((5)\) without one is extremely misleading.1,2 It is evident only if you inspect the SAS code. See Detlew’s post about the background given by Donald Schuirmann in 2016.
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Achievwin ★ US, 2021-08-23 23:35 (642 d 11:48 ago) @ ElMaestro Posting: # 22534 Views: 2,297 |
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❝ FDA updated the canonical BE guideline for ANDAs. Draft. Comments period is open till October 22, 2021, Therefore any issues bothering/benefit ANDA folks can be sent to FDA as comments for consideration. FDA decided to split BA/BE guidance into two guidance 1) for ANDA filings and 2) for IND/NDAs More elaborate explanations of each aspect. |
Helmut ★★★ ![]() ![]() Vienna, Austria, 2021-08-24 01:46 (642 d 09:37 ago) @ Achievwin Posting: # 22535 Views: 2,306 |
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Hi Achievwin, ❝ FDA decided to split BA/BE guidance into two guidance 1) for ANDA filings and 2) for IND/NDAs Already in 2013/2014. ❝ More elaborate explanations of each aspect. I expect to see an update of #2 (current draft of Feb 2019) as well. — Dif-tor heh smusma 🖖🏼 Довге життя Україна! ![]() Helmut Schütz ![]() The quality of responses received is directly proportional to the quality of the question asked. 🚮 Science Quotes |