Mauricio Sampaio ★ Brazil, 2015-10-07 02:24 (3449 d 15:05 ago) Posting: # 15520 Views: 10,691 |
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Dear, anybody have references about linear pharmacokinetics of Levamlodipine between 2,5 - 5,0 mg? Levamlodipine is also known as levoamlodipine or S-amlodipine and it is a pharmacologically active enantiomer of amlodipine. Can I conclude if amlodipine (racemic mixture) has linear pharmacokinetics, levamlodipine follows the same behavior? ![]() Best regads! |
Mauricio Sampaio ★ Brazil, 2016-06-04 00:33 (3208 d 16:56 ago) @ Mauricio Sampaio Posting: # 16393 Views: 8,580 |
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❝ anybody have references about linear pharmacokinetics of Levamlodipine between 2,5 - 5,0 mg? ❝ ❝ Levamlodipine is also known as levoamlodipine or S-amlodipine and it is a pharmacologically active enantiomer of amlodipine. Can I conclude if amlodipine (racemic mixture) has linear pharmacokinetics, levamlodipine follows the same behavior? Hi members! Somebody have any contribution with the question posted? |
Mauricio Sampaio ★ Brazil, 2016-06-06 18:19 (3205 d 23:10 ago) @ Mauricio Sampaio Posting: # 16402 Views: 8,529 |
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Dear, Amlodipine is a racemic mixture of [-]S and [+]R-enantiomeric forms, with the S-amlodipine, also known as Levamlodipine, having analgesic activity. Considering the main objective in bioanalysis will be development an achiral method, simple, sensitive, rapid and reliable mass spectrometry for the quantification of S-amlodipine in human plasma. I ask you,...can I use Amlodipine (racemic) instead of S-amlodipine (enantiomeric form) as analitical standard? Note: The volunteers just will administrate Levamlodipine. |
Helmut ★★★ ![]() ![]() Vienna, Austria, 2016-06-06 22:23 (3205 d 19:06 ago) @ Mauricio Sampaio Posting: # 16403 Views: 8,430 |
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Dear Mauricio, we have done that for other drugs where only the racemate is commercially available as a certified standard. You have to assess and quantify the enantiomeric purity (which is not given in the CoA). Had no issues with the EMA (current GL). — Dif-tor heh smusma 🖖🏼 Довге життя Україна! ![]() Helmut Schütz ![]() The quality of responses received is directly proportional to the quality of the question asked. 🚮 Science Quotes |
nobody nothing 2016-06-07 10:29 (3205 d 07:00 ago) @ Helmut Posting: # 16404 Views: 8,335 |
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❝ You have to assess and quantify the enantiomeric purity (which is not given in the CoA). Hy! in my strange parallel-universe I would have to have at least one pure enantiomer to do this, or am I totally wrong with this? — Kindest regards, nobody |
Mauricio Sampaio ★ Brazil, 2016-06-07 20:35 (3204 d 20:53 ago) @ nobody Posting: # 16407 Views: 8,360 |
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I agree with you Nobody. If the analytical response of S-amlodipine present in racemic compound is the same of isolate enantiomer using chiral method, I can determinate the purity. But, in my case, I do not have a chiral method available in bio-analysis. Then, I keep my doubt...can I use Amlodipine (racemic) instead of S-amlodipine (enantiomeric form) as analitical standard? Both standard are available on the market, but I can not aquire the pure enantiomere in short time. What are the guaranties of my correct quantification of S-Amlodipine in plasma with a method that do not make any difference between R and S enantiomeres present in analitical reference standard? |
Helmut ★★★ ![]() ![]() Vienna, Austria, 2016-06-08 03:32 (3204 d 13:57 ago) @ Mauricio Sampaio Posting: # 16412 Views: 8,263 |
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Hi Mauricio, I incorrectly assumed that you have a chiral method. Sorry. ❝ What are the guaranties of my correct quantification of S-Amlodipine in plasma with a method that do not make any difference between R and S enantiomeres present in analitical reference standard? There are none. In our case the enantiomeric ratio of the 'racemate' was in fact not 1:1 (checked by MS-MS response and circulardichroism after heart-cut of the eluted peaks). Do you have the study samples already in the fridge without a validated method method? If yes (bad) I would immediately order the certified l-enantiomer. Validate the method with the racemate but state in the protocol that you will correct all concentrations once you have the l-enantiomer. Analyze the study samples with the racemate standards / QCs. This is a last resort - better than to wait for the enantiomer standard and risk that the samples degrade in the meantime. Avoid it in the future. — Dif-tor heh smusma 🖖🏼 Довге життя Україна! ![]() Helmut Schütz ![]() The quality of responses received is directly proportional to the quality of the question asked. 🚮 Science Quotes |
Mauricio Sampaio ★ Brazil, 2016-06-09 23:48 (3202 d 17:41 ago) @ Helmut Posting: # 16422 Views: 8,245 |
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Hi Helmut and all members who contributed. ❝ I incorrectly assumed that you have a chiral method. Sorry. No problem my friend! ❝ Validate the method with the racemate but state in the protocol that you will correct all concentrations once you have the l-enantiomer. Analyze the study samples with the racemate standards / QCs. This is a last resort - better than to wait for the enantiomer standard and risk that the samples degrade in the meantime. Avoid it in the future. There is still time!!! ![]() Thank you so much! Now I understood that calibrators prepared and quality control samples concentration will not be accurate. Because weighing of standard is a racemate! So, concentration of unknown samples will be inaccurate. ![]() S-Amlodipine, let's go! ![]() |
martin ★★ Austria, 2016-06-09 17:22 (3203 d 00:06 ago) @ Mauricio Sampaio Posting: # 16420 Views: 8,219 |
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Dear all, Please note that there is hardly no way to show or proof linear PK in clinical studies. You usually assess dose-proportionality which is a consequence of linear PK (i.e. linear PK implies dose-proportionality but not necessarily vice versa). best regards & hope this helps Martin |
Mauricio Sampaio ★ Brazil, 2016-06-10 00:03 (3202 d 17:26 ago) @ martin Posting: # 16423 Views: 8,258 |
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Dear Martin ❝ Please note that there is hardly no way to show or proof linear PK in clinical studies. You told.."In clinical studies!" Question: is there any other way to proof linear PK or your text mean...PK linear is a theoric concept? like linear coefficient (r2) = 0,9999999 ❝ You usually assess dose-proportionality which is a consequence of linear PK (i.e. linear PK implies dose-proportionality but not necessarily vice versa). How many is accepted dose-proportional? 5%, 10%, 15% between diferent strengths? |
martin ★★ Austria, 2016-06-12 23:48 (3199 d 17:40 ago) @ Mauricio Sampaio Posting: # 16428 Views: 8,330 |
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Dear Maurico, Here is some more background regarding linear PK you may find useful: Linear kinetics: All transport processes follow a first order kinetic Transport processes: absorption, distribution and/or elimination First order kinetic: The concentration is changed at a rate proportional to the concentration Non-linear kinetic: One or more transport process(es) follow other than first order kinetic, for example: Zero order kinetic: The concentration is changed at a constant rate Michaelis-Menten kinetic: The change of concentration over time is a function of the drug concentration (capacity limited processes) On assumption of linear kinetics PK parameters AUC and Cmax increase proportional with dose PK parameters tmax , t1/2, CLs, Vss, MRT and F are independent of dose Dose-proportionality studies allows assessing dose-related changes in exposure but not necessarily time related changes (e.g. auto induction of metabolizing enzymes, inhibitor formation, etc). Regarding acceptance criteria you may find the following paper of interest: Smith BP, Vandenhende FR, DeSante KA, Farid NA, Welsch PA, Callaghan JT and Forgue ST (2000). Confidence interval criteria for assessment of dose proportionality. Pharmaceutical Research, 17(10):1278-1283. hope this helps & best regards martin |