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Hi all,

last week a former member of EMA’s Biostatistics Working Party recommended to me some scary stuff:

Ben Goldacre
Bad Pharma™
How drug companies mislead doctors and harm patients
HarperCollins, London, UK, 2012
ISBN 978-00-00-735074-2

See also the article in Wikipedia.

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2013-04-22 09:41
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I've seen this recommendation put forth now from multiple sources. This one may be the one that makes me do something about it. Thanks, Helmut.

The Outlaw.
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Hi Outlaw,

keep in mind that Mr Goldacre writes for laypersons. If you want you can skip the first parts and head directly for Chapter 4… Ugly.

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2013-04-23 10:32
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On a similar note, have you read this one: Scientific malfeasance
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Hi Outlaw!

❝ […] Scientific malfeasance


Fantastic.

[image]Now get a decent cup of tea, sit down, read this story and the follow up. Details given by the US Depart­ment of Justice and :blahblah: [image] archived from Ranbaxy’s website.

   »Company scientists told Thakur’s staff that they were directed to […] substitute brand-name drugs in lieu of their own ge­­ne­rics in bio­­­equi­­­va­­lence tests to produce better results.«
   »And then there was the ultimate shortcut: using brand-name drugs as stand-ins for its own in bio­­equi­­va­lence studies.«
   »Ranbaxy executives didn’t care, says Kathy Spreen, and made little effort to conceal it. In a con­ference call with a dozen company executives, one brushed aside her fears about the quality of the AIDS medicine Ranbaxy was supplying for Africa. “Who cares?” he said, according to Spreen. “It’s just blacks dying.”«


Makes me sick. :vomit:

BTW, in 2008 these guys cashed $2 billion by selling their 34% stake to Daiichi Sankyo. Enough for each of them to buy a Ferrari 458 every single week for the rest of their lives!
Given their chutzpah, I’m sure they would succeed in negotiating a discount.


Edit: In 2014–2015 Daiichi Sankyo gave up sorting out this mess (seemingly to accept an $800 million loss was considered cheaper than to continue) and sold to Sun Pharma making it the largest Indian pharma company and the 5th largest generic company worldwide. Do you think that Sun can/will do better than the Japanese?

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And no one went to jail for any of this! Unfreakingbelievable!
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2013-06-08 23:29
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Hi Outlaw,

strong statement:

All Ranbaxy products currently in the Indian market and globally are safe and efficacious. Ranbaxy stands by the quality of every medicine that the company makes and distributes in India and every country in the world.”


Safety and efficacy proven by “bioequivalence” studies of the TT|RR-type? Or was it just RR? Can one of the forum’s seven members registered with a Ranbaxy e-mail address / IP please clarify my doubts?

❝ And no one went to jail for any of this!


Not yet. There is [image] hope.

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2013-06-09 00:38
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Hi Helmut,

It looks like either the Indian Minister of Health had access to alternate sources of information, or he doesn't understand what he's talking about:

In the production of the medicines, the company may have forgotten to follow one or two steps prescribed by the US FDA...
:lamer:


I hope their GMP inspectors know better...

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2013-06-09 01:09
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Oh,

In the production of the medicines, the company may have forgotten to follow one or two steps prescribed by the US FDA...


Holy currrrap! I think I need a double dose of Schützomycin tonight.

Pass or fail!
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Hi Ohlbe et al.,

seems to develop into a never-ending story. See this recent article:

[image] FDA Data Integrity Concerns Continue in India as Three More Firms Draw GMP Warning Letters



PS: IMHO, it is more than telling that none of the ~700 (‼) Indian members of the forum considered it worth the trouble participating in this thread. :-(
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