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2010-10-11 20:51
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 Difficult tasks [Off Topic]

Dear all,

I want to share with you a little story told by one of my friends, professor of chemical engineering. In a decisive examinination for a group of students (between grades 4 and 5, where 1 is best and 5 worst) amongst others they were free to select from two excercises.
  1. Dealing with the chloralkali process. They had a similar exercise in a previous exam, and the topic was exhaustively covered in their tuition. But: It’s a tricky task; you have to set up the chemical equations, get the stoichiometric conversion of masses and volumes to moles right, and solve a system of a quadratic equations. Twenty minutes of work minimum and a lot of space for mistakes.[image]
  2. The other one needed some creativity. You have a pipe and open it to superheated steam. Given:

    l0 = 1.5 m
    T = 250 ℃
    linear thermal expansion coefficient α = 0.00012 in/(ft·℃)
    l = l0·α·T
    1 ft = 12 in

    What’s the change in length?
    Obviously 1 in = 1/12 ft, 0.00012 in/(12 in·℃) = 0.00001/℃ and therefore, l = 1.5 m × 250 × 0.00001/℃ = 1.5 m × 2.5 × 0.001 = 0.00375 m or 3.75 mm. Took me five seconds to come up with the answer…
All of his students chose the first exercise and struggled with its pitfalls.

My friend was somewhat frustrated about nobody selecting the second one. The next week he presented it in a noncompetitive way to his students with a grade 1 or 2 only. He stated that the outcome wouldn’t influ­ence their grade – it was just to satisfy his curiosity. All of his students succeeded, but also
  • all of them needed a pocket calculator,
  • all of them made at least (!) one unit conversion, and
  • nobody recognized the possible shortening of the fraction.
What’s up with the students? Is this an Austrian specificity – or are we just getting old?

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2010-10-12 00:17
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 an austrian's thoughts

the stewdents act in strange ways
an easy task is not worth their scholarly gaze
instead they embark on a mental digression
and try to solve a much more difficult question
my friend the professor doesn't understand
the stewdents defy all logic under his command
it seems the world is upside down
my friend's face is one large frown



























and me, I just sigh in despair
I'm so lazy I won't cut my hair
Jaime_R
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2010-10-12 16:00
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 A pirate's poem

¡Hola ElMaestro!

Great to find a pirate busy with 'tying his men to the mast and flogging them' uncovering himself a sentimental poet. :pirate:
Though the ages of Habsburg in Spain are gone for a while, there must be still some common roots. At least these Austrian 'stewdents' have some immediate kin over here. :-D

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2010-10-12 17:04
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 Poetry of the finest

Old sailor!

That's a Poem!
For me the well dosed intermission before the last words was the best :-D.

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Detlew
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2010-10-12 21:25
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 an austrian's thoughts

Captain, my captain!

❝ and me, I just sigh in despair

❝ I'm so lazy I won't cut my hair


Great poem and well, you do know my hairstyle.

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2010-10-12 17:20
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 Difficult tasks

Dear Helmut,

❝ What’s up with the students? Is this an Austrian specificity – or are we just getting old?


The whole story reminds me at a citation:
"Youths may be able to run faster, but we (the old farts) know the shortcuts!"
:-D

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Detlew
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2010-10-12 17:31
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 Difficult tasks

Dear D. Labes!

❝ The whole story reminds me at a citation:

❝ "Youths may be able to run faster, but we (the old farts) know the shortcuts!"


Hey, funny! Despite Alzheimer’s approaching, I was using exactly this quotation in the chat with my friend (original in German: “Die Jungen können vielleicht schneller laufen, aber wir kennen die Abkürzungen!”)

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2010-10-12 18:29
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 Austrian wisdom

Dear Helmut!

Much more funny: The original is presumable from Austria! :ok:

'Die Jungen laufen vielleicht schneller, aber die Älteren kennen die Abkürzungen!'
(the perhaps is more pronounced here then in the english translation 'maybe' I think)

Attributed to Andreas Khol, former politician and now chairman of the "Österreichischer Seniorenbund" (translates roughly to Austrian seniors union).

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2010-10-12 21:21
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 Austrian wisdom

Dear D. Labes!

❝ 'Die Jungen laufen vielleicht schneller, aber die Älteren kennen die Abkürzungen!'


❝ Attributed to Andreas Khol [...]


Right guess - you know how to :google:!
He made this quote a couple of years ago on the Austrian TV. Maybe I know some shortcuts too, but my memory is not the best any more. ;-)

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