jag009
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NJ,
2014-03-05 18:06
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 Question: Bioanalytical repeat with different lab [Bioanalytics]

Hi everyone,

Strange Question... Lets say I run clinical and bioanalytical at Lab A and the study fails. I have doubt about their analytical so I take the samples to another bioanalytical Lab "B". If the results from lab "B" are different and the study now passes, how do I go about justifying filing? Lets say both validation reports look good and the methods are acceptable.

Thanks,
John
nobody
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2014-03-06 11:21
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 Question: Bioanalytical repeat with different lab

Hi,

how about a blinded cross-validation? In a perfect world, one lab will fail and one will pass the test...

Regards

Kindest regards, nobody
Dr_Dan
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2014-03-06 12:17
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 Question: Bioanalytical repeat with different lab

Dear John
As far as I understood both labs have a validated method and I guess ISR and QC data showed acceptable performance of the respective methods. So why have you had doubts about the first results? If the results from lab "B" are different what should be the reason? In which respect are the results different? The samples measured were not exactly the same, lab "A" measured the first aliquot and lab "B" the second, right?
More information is needed to give advice.
Kind regards
Dr_Dan

Kind regards and have a nice day
Dr_Dan
ElMaestro
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Denmark,
2014-03-06 22:44
(4098 d 05:30 ago)

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 Question: Bioanalytical repeat with different lab

Hi John,

❝ Strange Question... Lets say I run clinical and bioanalytical at Lab A and the study fails. I have doubt about their analytical so I take the samples to another bioanalytical Lab "B". If the results from lab "B" are different and the study now passes, how do I go about justifying filing? Lets say both validation reports look good and the methods are acceptable.


I think, the justification of Lab B's result must be backward in the sense that you must refute Lab A's result first. If all is good at Lab A, and your audit or monitoring (deliberately using the m-word here, actually) does not indicate issues, then there would seem no reason to have analyses at Lab B done at all.

Further, let's hypothetically say a user of the bebac forum wonders about you having "doubt about their analytical"; such a user could think it would be beneficial to know what that doubt is all about, and to know if that doubt only popped up when Lab A's result was a non-pass. What would you hypothetically reply?

Pass or fail!
ElMaestro
AngusMcLean
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USA,
2014-03-07 01:32
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 Question: Bioanalytical repeat with different lab

The only way it would be acceptable to reject data from one lab. would be if a systematic error was identified. Only on this basis could you switch labs.


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