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2012-11-22 12:32
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 mebeverine [Design Issues]

Is there any reasonable answer that forgive me from bioequivalence for mebeverine HCL?

Thanks


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2012-11-22 12:47
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 mebeverine

Dear Mr AMR,

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Could you please elaborate more on your query, so that we can give an appropriate reply.

Dr Gunasakaran Sambandan MD
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2012-11-22 13:12
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 mebeverine bioequivalence

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The necessity to do bioequivalence study for mebeverine HCL tablets as i know it has no clearly pharmacokinetic parameters, so can you help me if there is any reply that forgive me from making bioequivalence study.
very thanks
Amr hussein


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NJ,
2012-11-28 16:58
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 mebeverine bioequivalence

Hi A-M-R,

1) Immediate release tablets? 2) Where are you filing? 3) Evaluate BCS class?

John
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2012-11-28 17:10
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 BCS?

Hi John & A-M-R!

❝ 3) Evaluate BCS class?


Good question. Not listed in TSRL’s BCS data base. Couldn’t find anything in a quick search of the literature either. Not clear whether it is really worthwhile to start from scratch (classification, reliable human absorption data, in vitro conditions, risk assessment, :blahblah:).

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2012-11-28 22:22
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 BCS?

Hi Helmut,

I don't see how A-M-R can bypass BE studies other than going with BCS classifiation (FDA?). Having said that, if he goes with BCS it will probably be cheaper and less time consuming in the long run? He also needs to make sure that the reference product is rapidly dissolving (as per FDA guidance).

John
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2012-11-28 22:52
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 BCS?

Hi John & A-M-R!

❝ I don't see how A-M-R can bypass BE studies other than going with BCS classifiation (FDA?).


Exactly. Same with EMA’s rules. A-M-R hasn’t stated the regulation he/she is aiming at. Maybe there are still countries with a “positive list” (i.e., drugs where no studies were required at all…). Such lists existed in Germany and Poland, and – until last year for national authorizations only – in The Netherlands. Must have been fun to be an assessor in Holland:
  • First dossier: National application. Drug on the positive list. No BE study, no biowaiver requested, only quality data submitted.
    Approved.
      Go for lunch.
  • Second dossier: Same drug, same test and reference formulations as above. Well, there was no reference above… Concerned member state in a mutual recognition procedure. Two large BE studies, fasting/fed. Fasting study passed, fed study’s Cmax ratio 90% CI 85.00–125.01%.
    Rejected.
      Have a coffee-break.

❝ […] if he goes with BCS it will probably be cheaper and less time consuming in the long run? He also needs to make sure that the reference product is rapidly dissolving (as per FDA guidance).


Absolutely. Look at my last sentence above. With nothing published this will be a tough job (I wouldn’t even think about it). Even if one overcomes all these obstacles, the risk assessment will be the show-stopper. A-M-R, to get an idea have a look at FIP’s biowaiver monographs.
Unfortunately many colleagues still think that a biowaiver means only a bunch of nice f2 values and mass balance from the literature. It’s not that easy.

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2012-11-29 09:58
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 BCS?

❝ With nothing published this will be a tough job (I wouldn’t even think about it). Even if one overcomes all these obstacles, the risk assessment will be the show-stopper.


Goodmorning Europe and Hello ROW,

Helmut, would you mind expanding a tad on what you mean by the risk assessment being a party pooper? Is it because mebeverine doesn't have much of a history (sparce published literature data, as you mentioned) or any post-marketing data? Are you talking pharmacovigilance here?

Although we haven't personally gone the BCS biowaiver route yet, it would be useful to have a more comprehensive understanding of the process.

Thanks.
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2012-11-29 16:23
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 BCS?

Hi Outlaw,

❝ Although we haven't personally gone the BCS biowaiver route yet, it would be useful to have a more comprehensive understanding of the process.


Well I don't know much about A-M-R's compound but BCS route can be complicate, i.e., metabolites. I worked with a compound and BCS was the first strategy we went after. However, FDA came back with all sorts of question including the need to show BCS on the metabolites.

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2012-11-29 16:46
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 BCS?

Howdy John,

❝ However, FDA came back with all sorts of question including the need to show BCS on the metabolites.


Ouch. Complicated, indeed. That helps, thanks.
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2013-10-03 18:24
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 BCS?

Dear all,

So to what BCS classification does Mebeverine and its metabolities belong to. Does anyone have any idea/information on mebeverine?

Kind regards,
Tina
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