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rafimmc ☆ 2007-07-12 15:14 (6922 d 03:26 ago) Posting: # 885 Views: 5,379 |
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Dear Sir, We conducted a pilot study and got following results (T/R ratio and 90% Confidence Intervals). Cmax 101.38%(78.76-130.49); Intrasubject CV 45.5%; Power 42.10% AUC0-t 94.66% (76.05-117.84);Intrasubject CV 39.0%; Power 51.31% AUC0-inf 95.16% (78.44-115.43);Intrasubject CV 34.1%; Power 60.50% Sample size for pivotal study is found to be 64. Can we expect the pivotal study would clear the product or to recommend to reformulate the product? Please suggest. Thanks and Regards, Rafimmc |
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Helmut ★★★ ![]() Vienna, Austria, 2007-07-12 17:41 (6922 d 00:59 ago) @ rafimmc Posting: # 886 Views: 4,720 |
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Dear rafimmc, why didn't you give us the sample size of the pilot study? OK, I make an educated guess: 18? ![]() ❝ Cmax 101.38%(78.76-130.49); Intrasubject CV 45.5%; Power 42.10% ❝ AUC0-t 94.66% (76.05-117.84);Intrasubject CV 39.0%; Power 51.31% ❝ AUC0-inf 95.16% (78.44-115.43);Intrasubject CV 34.1%; Power 60.50% I don't think a-posteriori power does make any sense; but that's another story; see e.g., Hoenig JM, Heisey DM. The Abuse of Power. The Pervasive Fallacy of Power Calculations for Data Analysis. Am Stat. 2001;55(1):19–24. doi:10.1198/000313001300339897. ❝ Sample size for pivotal study is found to be 64. Hhm, based on which expected point estimate? For Cmax I get 64 subjects for GMRs of (100+2)%, acceptance range 80%-125%, 80% power. Which such a high variability, you must not forget that both values gained form the pilot study are uncertain: - the point estimates - the intra-subject CVs Conventionally in sample size estimation we would use a deviation of +5% from the reference as a minimum. But it should be noted, that the small deviation of test from reference observed in the pilot may only be due to simple chance! But even if you strongly belief in your formulation, the high variability remains problematic. ![]() Calculating the upper (one-sided) 95% confidence limit of the CV of 45.5% for Cmax one gets 67.8% calling for 142 subjects (staying with your +2% expectation. For +5% n=196! For details of the calculation based on the Chi2-distribution see Chow & Liu (2000), * but use a one-sided 95% CL instead (they give a calculation for the two-sided CI).Here we see one nasty property of power curves: The upper CL (67.8%) of the CV is 149% of the estimate (45.5%), but the sample size (142) is 222% of the value (64) we would calculate from the estimate (z-axis: upper 95% CL as percentage of the estimated CV from the pilot study, x-axis: sample size, and y-axis: CV from the pilot study). ![]() ❝ Can we expect the pivotal study would clear the product or to recommend to ❝ reformulate the product? Both answers are negative. I think that your product is fine, your difficulties will come from the high variability making it quite difficult to demonstrate BE. You may opt for a reference scaled average bioequivalence approach (SABE); which has some chances of acceptance in the US, but is almost futile according to recent developments in the EU. I wouldn't go any further without a scientific advisory meeting with the regulator. * S-C Chow and J-p Liu Design and Analysis of Bioavailability and Bioequivalence Studies Marcel Dekker, New York (2nd ed. 2000), pp 187-219— Dif-tor heh smusma 🖖🏼 Довге життя Україна! ![]() Helmut Schütz ![]() The quality of responses received is directly proportional to the quality of the question asked. 🚮 Science Quotes |
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rafimmc ☆ 2007-07-20 08:17 (6914 d 10:23 ago) @ Helmut Posting: # 914 Views: 4,373 |
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Dear Sir, Yes. The sample size was 18. Can we expect a multiple dose study with 64 subjects to give lesser variablity and thus increasing the chances of demonstrating bioequivalence? Please suggest. Thanks adn regards, Rafimmc |
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Helmut ★★★ ![]() Vienna, Austria, 2007-07-22 15:42 (6912 d 02:58 ago) @ rafimmc Posting: # 922 Views: 4,470 |
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Dear rafimmc! ❝ Can we expect a multiple dose study with 64 subjects to give lesser ❝ variablity ... There are just a few examples were variability in steady state was not lower than after a single dose. ❝ ... and thus increasing the chances of demonstrating bioequivalence? No. Multiple dose studies to decrease variability were suggested at the BioInternational Conference 1992; although common practice (EU, Australia,...) for many years, according to current practice single dose studies are mandatory because of their higher discriminatory power (especially for Cmax). I've seen many deficiency letters in the last years where sponsors were asked for single dose BE after submitting MD only. These sponsors are in the uncomfortable situation, that they have forseen problems - if not infeasibility - in demonstrating BE in single dose; seeking help in MD now they are pushed back to start... — Dif-tor heh smusma 🖖🏼 Довге життя Україна! ![]() Helmut Schütz ![]() The quality of responses received is directly proportional to the quality of the question asked. 🚮 Science Quotes |


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