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Dr_Dan ★★ Germany, 2011-04-14 18:27 (5554 d 20:19 ago) Posting: # 6900 Views: 3,296 |
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Dear all Is it mandatory that the clinical overview (Modul 2.5 of the dossier) is signed by a physician? In fact most medical writers (at least here in Germany) are biologists. According to article 12 Directive 2001/83/EC 1. The applicant shall ensure that, before the detailed summaries referred to in the last subparagraph of Article 8(3) are submitted to the competent authorities, they have been drawn up and signed by experts with the necessary technical or professional qualifications, which shall be set out in a brief curriculum vitae. No physician demanded. The same holds true for the German Drug Law §24(3) AMG. The British MHRA insists of having the expert statement signed by a physician without having any objections against the quality of the statement written by a biologist. Is there any legal basis for this demand? Looking forward to your replies. Kind regards Dan — Kind regards and have a nice day Dr_Dan |
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Helmut ★★★ ![]() Vienna, Austria, 2011-04-14 21:26 (5554 d 17:21 ago) @ Dr_Dan Posting: # 6901 Views: 2,789 |
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Dear Dan, interesting! The Austrian AMG, Section "Zulassungsunterlagen" states in § 9a (2): Einem Antrag auf Zulassung ist ferner je eine kommentierende und bewertende wissenschaftliche Zusammenfassung zu den in den Unterlagen gemäß Abs. 1 enthaltenen
The Austrian AMG is in conformity with 2001/83/EC; what's up with the MHRA?— Dif-tor heh smusma 🖖🏼 Довге життя Україна! ![]() Helmut Schütz ![]() The quality of responses received is directly proportional to the quality of the question asked. 🚮 Science Quotes |
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ElMaestro ★★★ Denmark, 2011-04-14 22:34 (5554 d 16:12 ago) @ Helmut Posting: # 6902 Views: 2,737 |
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Dear Dan, my experience is that most are signed by and MD, but they need not generally be. In some countries they have some funny opinions on that and I guess this is what you are running into here. Taking it one step further, there is no regulation on what constitutes a clinical assessor. In practice this is a person (or other creature, I do seem to recall cases where I wondered) who assesses module 5 clinical effect and safety and thus comments on the qualifications of the person writing the clin. overview. In some countries, clinical assessors have to be MD's. This as I see it is a turf war: you are not qualified to do that job unless you are an MD. Interestingly, the countries applying such practices (which of course are not written anywhere) have never ever as CMS triggered a referral citing incompetence of a clin. assesor in an RMS even when he or she was not to be considered in possession of the qualifying education as MD. This in practice implies that these countries consider non-MD's incompetent to do such assessments in country X but competent for assessment in countries Y and Z. Dear HS, my mother tongue is not German, it is ... erm ... Flemmolophystic or what the heck it's called here in Belgium ?I think the paragraph you are referring to has another practical meaning. It basically says that the application must contain a review of the CMC, the preclinics, and not least the clinics, for which the documentation is to be produced by qualified personnel. IOW, it comments on the qualification on the personnel who produce module 5 contents (clin. study reports), but not on the qualifications of the reviewing personnel who produce the overview. Setting specifications for investigators etc is common and a requirement in accordance with the general GCP regulation, see e.g. ICH E6 8.2.10, 4.1.1 and 3.1.3. — Pass or fail! ElMaestro |
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Marcel ★ 2011-04-15 12:17 (5554 d 02:29 ago) @ ElMaestro Posting: # 6904 Views: 2,689 |
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Hi guys, I write both module 2.4 and 2.5 for submissions. I'm a pharmacist, not an MD. The preponderance of the times, they are accepted as is. However, almost invariably the UK will ask for the report to be written by a physician (and occasionally we've been asked the same thing from France). When this happens, we get a physician from our consulting list and have them co-sign the report. This has always been sufficient to clear the DL concern. I've looked into this thoroughly, and the most recent guidelines do not mention the need for the expert to be a physician. However, in the past the guideline did request for a physician when it was known as "Clinical Expert Report." So, I believe some people are like old dogs and can't learn new tricks (or learn new guidelines). Marcel |

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