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riteshsrmc ☆ India, 2013-10-17 10:21 (4632 d 18:33 ago) Posting: # 11668 Views: 4,797 |
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Hi Helmut I hope this message finds you well. What would be your comments on Stabilization/Equlibration Run in bioanlaysis?We do have system suitability experiemnt in hand and we also develop Bioanalytical method while taking drug and system into consideration.Why we need to have Stabilization/Equlibration Run? How does it add significant value to the experiment? Your yearly response will be highly appreciated? Thanks, Kumar |
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sarada06884 ☆ India, 2013-10-17 13:50 (4632 d 15:05 ago) @ riteshsrmc Posting: # 11671 Views: 4,244 |
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Dear Mr. Kumar, The purpose of system stabilization is to handle the back pressure that is created in the system. A high back pressure will always cause increase in area and area ratios which will come down significantly after a few injections. The idea of system stabilization is to bring down the area ratios to normal, by subsequent injections so that the area ratios are stabilized. On the other hand system suitability is done on a stabilized system, to access if the system is suitable with respect to column, mobile phase, area ratio and RT of drug and IS. An SOP should be in place defining the procedure for performing system stabilization and the acceptance criteria. No subject samples should be used for stabilization. Reporting of results of system stabilization would add clarity to the data and the regulators won't be left surprised as to how the system was stabilized. Regards P.S.Srinivas |
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riteshsrmc ☆ India, 2013-10-17 15:50 (4632 d 13:05 ago) @ sarada06884 Posting: # 11673 Views: 4,216 |
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Hi Srinivas, Appreciated for prompt response. Neverthless a couple of clarification required. 1. Is the stabilization/equilibration an absolute requirement for Assay or it varies case to case? 2.If we do this experiment still I believe there would be chances of mis-use or imporper use of stabilization/equilibration samples?How do we mitigate that? 3.There is no mechanism/control strategy to handle the back pressure while developing a method? My questions would be abberent as I am not BA scientist.So please don not hesitate while responding? Edit: Full quote removed. Please delete everything from the text of the original poster which is not necessary in understanding your answer; see also this post! [Dr_Dan] |
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sarada06884 ☆ India, 2013-10-18 09:07 (4631 d 19:47 ago) @ riteshsrmc Posting: # 11682 Views: 4,185 |
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Dear Mr. Kumar, Stabilization/equilibration is not an absolute requirement for Assay. As already explained in my previous post, the purpose of system stabilization is to handle the back pressure that is created in the system. If there is no increased back pressure the there would be no requirement for Stabilization/equilibration and one can proceed for assay of samples directly. In order to mitigate this issue of misuse of samples, there should be a documented procedure for the same. An SOP should be in place specifying the preparation of samples. Generally aqueous based (Unextracted samples) samples are used for the same. In no case subjects samples be used for Stabilization/equilibration. There is not totally fool proof strategy for handling the back pressure. This also depends on the column, the mobile phase etc.The mobile phase may be filtered through .22 micron filter to remove the complexes (if any). Also column washing may help mitigate the issue in case the column is completely blocked. As far as I am concerned back pressure can be minimized but cannot be totally eliminated. Regards P.S.Srinivas |
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riteshsrmc ☆ India, 2013-10-18 09:49 (4631 d 19:06 ago) (edited on 2013-10-18 14:06) @ sarada06884 Posting: # 11683 Views: 4,164 |
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Ohlbe ★★★ France, 2013-10-18 16:29 (4631 d 12:26 ago) @ riteshsrmc Posting: # 11697 Views: 4,183 |
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Dear Kumar, ❝ Helmutz/ElMaestro/Olhbe: ❝ ❝ Would you like to add something on this conversation. Yes: please read this post. ❝ Your input is required. We all post on our free time, on topics of interest to us. If you absolutely require the opinion of Helmut and ElMaestro, they both run consultancy services. Back to you questions:
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riteshsrmc ☆ India, 2013-10-23 14:28 (4626 d 14:27 ago) @ Ohlbe Posting: # 11732 Views: 4,056 |
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Ohlbe ★★★ France, 2013-10-23 14:59 (4626 d 13:55 ago) @ riteshsrmc Posting: # 11734 Views: 4,074 |
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Dear Kumar, First, and once again: please read this post. When answering a message, please delete everything from the text of the original poster which is not necessary in understanding your answer. ❝ So system suitability alone can not stabilize the MS system right? Are you using aqueous samples for system suitability, or plasma-based samples ? If aqueous or solvent-based: no, it will not stabilise the system. If plasma-based: maybe it will, maybe it won't be sufficient. Some methods will require only a few injections, sometimes you need a few dozens. ❝ We may need to have prep-run procedure in place? If you are using prep runs: yes, if you want to avoid the problems that Cetero ran into. — Regards Ohlbe |
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riteshsrmc ☆ India, 2013-10-23 15:13 (4626 d 13:41 ago) @ Ohlbe Posting: # 11735 Views: 4,108 |
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Thanks Olhbe |
