Emrah Soner Özdeş ☆ Turkey, 2014-12-24 08:38 (3768 d 16:31 ago) Posting: # 14157 Views: 8,846 |
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Dear All; I recently performed an interim analysis of a two-stage study with Potvin Method C and here are the initial results (power evaluated with alpha level of 0.05) LN AUCT: 77.81 - 96.71 Power: 91.55% LN CMAX: 77.24 - 100.97 Power: 73.51 Given below the flowchart of Potvin method C, I believe this is a fail case where second stage is not required since power of only end-point is below 80% Do you think is this the right way interpreting the results ? Any help will be appreciated. Thanks C. Evaluate the power at stage 1 using the variance estimate from stage 1 and an a level of 0.05. If the power is greater than or equal to 80%, evaluate BE at stage 1 using an a level of 0.05 and stop whether BE is met or not. If the power is less than 80%, evaluate BE using an a of 0.0294. If the BE criterion is met, stop. If the BE criterion is not met, calculate the sample size based on the variance estimated at stage 1 and an a level of 0.0294 and continue to stage 2. Evaluate BE at stage 2 using data from both stages and an a level of 0.0294. Stop here whether BE is met or not and regardless of the power achieved. |
Helmut ★★★ ![]() ![]() Vienna, Austria, 2014-12-24 17:22 (3768 d 07:46 ago) @ Emrah Soner Özdeş Posting: # 14166 Views: 7,480 |
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Merhaba Emrah, ❝ Do you think is this the right way interpreting the results ? Maybe. Maybe not. We need more information: Can you please give us the sample size of the first stage? — Dif-tor heh smusma 🖖🏼 Довге життя Україна! ![]() Helmut Schütz ![]() The quality of responses received is directly proportional to the quality of the question asked. 🚮 Science Quotes |
Emrah Soner Özdeş ☆ Turkey, 2014-12-25 09:36 (3767 d 15:33 ago) @ Helmut Posting: # 14172 Views: 7,504 |
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❝ Maybe. Maybe not. We need more information: Can you please give us the sample size of the first stage? Hi Helmut; First stage was performed with 24 subjects. |
ElMaestro ★★★ Denmark, 2014-12-25 13:32 (3767 d 11:37 ago) @ Emrah Soner Özdeş Posting: # 14173 Views: 7,468 |
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Hi Emrah, ❝ I recently performed an interim analysis of a two-stage study with Potvin Method C and here are the initial results (power evaluated with alpha level of 0.05) ❝ ❝ LN AUCT: 77.81 - 96.71 Power: 91.55% ❝ LN CMAX: 77.24 - 100.97 Power: 73.51 ❝ ❝ Given below the flowchart of Potvin method C, I believe this is a fail case where second stage is not required since power of only end-point is below 80% ❝ ❝ Do you think is this the right way interpreting the results ? I assume you wrote in your protocol that your way through the decision tree would be dictated by Cmax and not AUCt? You'll be going into stage 2 before declaring success or failure. Please help me understand the details. I get on basis of Cmax: PE=88.31% and CV=27.5% with N1=24, and assuming balance you'll have a power of about 65% (alpha 5%, GMR 95% as per Potvin and not 88.31%). Where did I go wrong here? — Pass or fail! ElMaestro |
Emrah Soner Özdeş ☆ Turkey, 2014-12-26 09:55 (3766 d 15:14 ago) @ ElMaestro Posting: # 14178 Views: 7,426 |
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Herr Schütz; ❝ Please help me understand the details. I get on basis of Cmax: ❝ PE=88.31% and CV=27.5% with N1=24, and assuming balance you'll have a power of about 65% (alpha 5%, GMR 95% as per Potvin and not 88.31%). Where did I go wrong here? It seems that I need to check my calculations for power value since point estimator and CV values are same with the one you calculated. Could you advice a reliable formula to check my calculations ? ❝ I assume you wrote in your protocol that your way through the decision tree would be dictated by Cmax and not AUCt? You'll be going into stage 2 before declaring success or failure. No it will be dictated by both Cmax and AUCt. Assuming that both endpoints are outside the 90% CI and power is below 80% for only one endpoint ? What would be the next step ? Thanks in advance Emrah |
Helmut ★★★ ![]() ![]() Vienna, Austria, 2014-12-26 18:51 (3766 d 06:18 ago) @ Emrah Soner Özdeş Posting: # 14179 Views: 7,531 |
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Hi Emrah, ❝ Herr Schütz; First: You replied to ElMaestro and second: I’m fine to be called with my prename Helmut. ![]() ❝ Could you advice a reliable formula to check my calculations ? Software for Power/sample size: Get R and the package PowerTOST .I guess you used a ratio of 1 (should be 0.95 for Potvin’s & Montague’s methods) and the shifted (central) t-distribution. I got almost your results:
❝ ❝ I assume you wrote in your protocol that your way through the decision tree would be dictated by Cmax and not AUCt? You'll be going into stage 2 before declaring success or failure. ❝ ❝ No it will be dictated by both Cmax and AUCt. Assuming that both endpoints are outside the 90% CI and power is below 80% for only one endpoint ? What would be the next step ? This is what I write in my protocols as well. The procedure for your study (note that you should not necessarily calculate the 90% CIs), Method C: I generally start with Cmax, which likely is higher variable:
Gives: Interim analysis of Cmax I think it is worthwhile to look at the PEs, which were <90%. Did you have some clues which let you assuming them to be 95%? If yes, OK. Shit happens. A conventional fixed-sample design – in up to 60 (!) subjects – would have failed as well. Let’s play the devil’s advocate: You had some hints that the T/R will be 90%. Then you should better have used Montague’s Method D (α 0.0280) – instead of being overly optimistic:
No Two-Stage Method is published yet which would allow to stop a study if the PE is outside an acceptable range. Charles Bon suggested at the AAPS Annual Meeting 2007 a futility criterion of <85.00 and >117.65%. Before you apply such a method, you would have to find and validate a suitable αadj. Since your PEs were pretty low there would be some chances that the study stops in the first stage (contrary to Method D which would lead to high sample sizes). Try the function power.2stage.fC() in the package Power2Stage .— Dif-tor heh smusma 🖖🏼 Довге життя Україна! ![]() Helmut Schütz ![]() The quality of responses received is directly proportional to the quality of the question asked. 🚮 Science Quotes |
Emrah Soner Özdeş ☆ Turkey, 2014-12-29 08:49 (3763 d 16:20 ago) @ Helmut Posting: # 14195 Views: 7,104 |
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Dear Helmut; Thanks for this satisfying answer !!!. It is kind of a lecture on interim analysis and two-stage desgins. It really helped a lot. Regards |