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Achievwin ★★ US, 2026-03-24 17:11 (71 d 07:22 ago) Posting: # 24597 Views: 1,779 |
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What is appropriate statistical test for Comparing Time variables in a BE or RBA study? Time variables usually we report Median and (Min-Max) as opposed to Mean+/- SD? What is the most accepted and appropriate statistical test comparing Median and Range values? Thanks, |
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Helmut ★★★ ![]() Vienna, Austria, 2026-03-25 14:01 (70 d 10:32 ago) @ Achievwin Posting: # 24598 Views: 1,319 |
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Hi Achievwin, I reordered you questions. ❝ Time variables usually we report Median and (Min-Max) as opposed to Mean+/- SD? ❝ What is appropriate statistical test for Comparing Time variables in a BE or RBA study? ❝ What is the most accepted and appropriate statistical test comparing Median and Range values? — Dif-tor heh smusma 🖖🏼 Довге життя Україна! ![]() Helmut Schütz ![]() The quality of responses received is directly proportional to the quality of the question asked. 🚮 Science Quotes |
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ElMaestro ★★★ Denmark, 2026-03-26 13:35 (69 d 10:58 ago) @ Achievwin Posting: # 24600 Views: 1,332 |
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Hi Achiewin, I second what Helmut said. We don't know much about the distribution of e.g. Tmax (or Tmax difference) so it can be argued that whatever test you apply, it has to be non-parametric. Most stats packages allow a Wilcoxon (rank-based) test optionally garnished with a CI of sorts. This gives you a p-value. There is some controversy, re. the null hypothesis that the p-value corresponds to and how p should be derived. An added complexity is that in BE we often have paired designs, and we often (I'd think almost always) have subjects with identical values for the metric being compared (like 6 subjects has Tmax of 2 hrs in one group, and 8 subjects had Tmax of 2 hrs in the other group) and such cases may further complicate the derivation of p. So, the very simple question of "how do I compare?" quickly spirals into something that has no simple answer. If you are in a situation where you have to send in "something" along the lines of a comparison of something like Tmax etc, then I think it is ok to simply submit what your stats package offers in its most simple form with a clear description of what exactly it is you are doing. Notably be clear if you present data for the median difference or the location of the median of your metric. If the regulators don't happen to like what you give them, they must tell so and ask for something else. Their request will usually give a decent hint as to what exactly they are then looking for. — Pass or fail! ElMaestro |
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Achievwin ★★ US, 2026-03-26 16:26 (69 d 08:07 ago) @ ElMaestro Posting: # 24601 Views: 1,360 |
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Thank you both I found that "Mann Whitney U test" and "Mood’s median test" as appropriate, can you advise which one of these tests is more appropriate? Or none of these are right tests? https://rcompanion.org/handbook/F_09.html#:~:text=Mood's%20median%20test%20compares%20the,function%20in%20the%20coin%20package Regards, AchievWin. |
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ElMaestro ★★★ Denmark, 2026-03-26 23:02 (69 d 01:31 ago) @ Achievwin Posting: # 24602 Views: 1,287 |
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Hi Achievwin ❝ I found that "Mann Whitney U test" and "Mood’s median test" as appropriate, can you advise which one of these tests is more appropriate? Or none of these are right tests? Sounds good. The Mann-Whitney U test is one of the Wilcoxon tests. There are two of them that I know of: Wilcoxon Signed Rank test (used for paired observations) Wilcoxon Rank Sum test (unpaired observations; this is the Mann-Whitney U test) Even so, there seems to be a little bit of disagreement about the nomenclature and definitions, see e.g. R's help file for the Wilcoxon test. What kind of data do you have (is your study crossover or parallel)? I would need to read some books that go a little beyond Wikipedia to figure out how/when/if Mood's test provides something more relevant than Wilcoxon variants.— Pass or fail! ElMaestro |

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to figure out how/when/if Mood's test provides something more relevant than Wilcoxon variants.