jag009
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NJ,
2014-08-05 21:34
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 BE Studies involving Multiple Groups [General Sta­tis­tics]

Hi everyone,

If you run a multiple (2)-group crossover BE study and there is a group effect, you run the stats separately for each study group and the results showed that one group pass BE and one fails. What will happen to your submission? Lets say both groups have acceptable sample size. Just curious if anyone has experience on this.

Thanks
John
ElMaestro
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Denmark,
2014-08-06 01:13
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@ jag009
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 BE Studies involving Multiple Groups

Hi John,

❝ If you run a multiple (2)-group crossover BE study and there is a group effect, you run the stats separately for each study group and the results showed that one group pass BE and one fails. What will happen to your submission? Lets say both groups have acceptable sample size. Just curious if anyone has experience on this.


Fails how? Partial overlap with acceptance range = no problem (but if PE's are subjectively distant from each other you'll need plenty violins). No overlap with acceptance range = big, ugly, evil trouble.

Anyways, a group effect itself isn't necessarily a showstopper. It's a test of another hypothesis anyway. What about the originally planned BE test?

By the way, I sent you an email 11 days ago. Went into the spam folder, perhaps?

Pass or fail!
ElMaestro
Dr_Dan
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2014-08-06 09:55
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 BE Studies involving Multiple Groups

Dear John,
I totally agree with ElMaestro. If you assess the groups separately you will have inflated 90%CI due to the lower number of subjects. Therefore a partial overlap with acceptance range should be no problem and to my experience this is the usual outcome. If you have no overlap with acceptance range you have shown for your product that (at least for this group) it is bioinequivalent. This group effect is a showstopper as long as you have no reasonable explanation for the different behavior of this group.
Kind regards
Dr_Dan

Kind regards and have a nice day
Dr_Dan
jag009
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NJ,
2014-08-08 18:49
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 BE Studies involving Multiple Groups

Thanks ElMaestro and Dr. Dan,

What if the drug is HVD?

ElMaestro: Sorry your email was stuck in my junk/spam box. Did you get my reply?

Thanks
John
Dr_Dan
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Germany,
2014-08-11 01:59
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 BE Studies involving Multiple Groups

Dear John

❝ What if the drug is HVD?


The same applies. Your 90%CI will be even wider due to the high variability of the drug and the low number of subjects and you will certainly get only a partial overlap with the acceptance range.
Kind regards
Dr_Dan

Kind regards and have a nice day
Dr_Dan
pash413
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India,
2014-08-18 10:26
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 BE Studies involving Multiple Groups

Dear All
I would like to know the significance of group effect in statistical model.
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