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Helmut ★★★ ![]() Vienna, Austria, 2013-07-15 19:40 (4717 d 00:57 ago) Posting: # 10980 Views: 5,205 |
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Dear all, thanks to Jiři Hofmann bringing log10-transformation (which is not uncommon in SE-Asia and Australia) back to my attention. Example data: Table 3.6.1 of Chow/Liu, MSE ln-transformed: 0.037221CVintra = 100√ℯMSE–1 = 19.47% Now for the gem – in the case of log10-transformed data we cannot simply back-transform like CVintra = 100√10MSE–1 = 12.77% ![]() Instead we have to apply: CVintra = 100√10ln(10)×MSE–1 = 19.47% ![]() Based on a discussion with Linda Hughes / Pharsight. — Dif-tor heh smusma 🖖🏼 Довге життя Україна! ![]() Helmut Schütz ![]() The quality of responses received is directly proportional to the quality of the question asked. 🚮 Science Quotes |
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yjlee168 ★★★ ![]() Kaohsiung, Taiwan, 2013-07-15 21:38 (4716 d 22:59 ago) @ Helmut Posting: # 10981 Views: 4,240 |
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Dear Helmut, Thanks for your post. OK here with bear. We always use CVintra = 100√abs[eMSE–1]. Just remove abs() from the equation since eMSE is always ≥ 1.0, as long as MSE ≥ 0 (and it is).❝ thanks to Jiři Hofmann bringing log10-transformation (which is not uncommon in SE-Asia and Australia) back to my attention.[...] — All the best, -- Yung-jin Lee bear v2.9.6:- created by Hsin-ya Lee & Yung-jin Lee Kaohsiung, Taiwan https://www.pkpd168.com/bear Download link (updated) -> here |
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Helmut ★★★ ![]() Vienna, Austria, 2013-07-15 22:37 (4716 d 22:00 ago) @ yjlee168 Posting: # 10982 Views: 4,202 |
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Dear Yung-jin, ❝ OK here with bear. Also OK in Phoenix/WinNonlin because with an elegant sidestep the software doesn’t calculate CVintra in the case of log10-transformed data at all. So it’s up to the user to make a mistake.I guess Pharsight will move forward in the next release (~1st half 2014). — Dif-tor heh smusma 🖖🏼 Довге життя Україна! ![]() Helmut Schütz ![]() The quality of responses received is directly proportional to the quality of the question asked. 🚮 Science Quotes |

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So it’s up to the user to make a mistake.