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 CV after log10-transformation [General Sta­tis­tics]

Dear all,

thanks to Jiři Hofmann bringing log10-transformation (which is not uncommon in SE-Asia and Australia) back to my attention.
Example data: Table 3.6.1 of Chow/Liu, MSE

ln-transformed:    0.037221
log10-transformed: 0.0070202


CVintra = 100√MSE–1 = 19.47%
Now for the gem – in the case of log10-transformed data we cannot simply back-transform like
CVintra = 100√10MSE–1 = 12.77% [image]
Instead we have to apply:
CVintra = 100√10ln(10)×MSE–1 = 19.47% [image]


Based on a discussion with Linda Hughes / Pharsight.

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2013-07-15 21:38
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 CV after log10-transformation

Dear Helmut,

Thanks for your post. OK here with bear. We always use CVintra = 100√abs[eMSE–1]. Just remove abs() from the equation since eMSE is always ≥ 1.0, as long as MSE ≥ 0 (and it is).

❝ thanks to Jiři Hofmann bringing log10-transformation (which is not uncommon in SE-Asia and Australia) back to my attention.[...]


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 CV after log10-transformation

Dear Yung-jin,

❝ OK here with bear.


Also OK in Phoenix/WinNonlin because with an elegant sidestep the software doesn’t calculate CVintra in the case of log10-transformed data at all. ;-) So it’s up to the user to make a mistake.

I guess Pharsight will move forward in the next release (~1st half 2014).

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