Ken Peh
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Malaysia,
2013-07-01 20:17
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 F values in ANOVA table [General Sta­tis­tics]

Dear All,

We found a discrepancy in the calculation of F value in ANOVA table when we use SAS. The F value of Carryover effect in SAS is calculated by dividing the MS of Carryover over the MS of intrasubject residual.

On the other hand, in Chou and Liu example in page 78 (Design and Analysis of Bioavailability and Bioequivalence studies, 2000), the F value of Carryover effect is calculated by dividing the MS of Carryover over the MS of intersubject residual.

Wonder which is the correct one :confused:. Appreciate if there is feedback from the group members.

Thank you.

Regards,
Ken
Ohlbe
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France,
2013-07-01 20:40
(4734 d 03:39 ago)

@ Ken Peh
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 F values in ANOVA table

Dear Ken,

Is this what we discussed in this thread ?

Regards
Ohlbe
Ken Peh
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Malaysia,
2013-07-02 11:47
(4733 d 12:32 ago)

@ Ohlbe
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 F values in ANOVA table

Dear Ohlbe,

TQVM. Yes, I find the answer and solution to my problem.

Some how I miss the thread although I have been searching the whole night ? Probably not using the right words during searching.

Regards,
Ken
ElMaestro
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Denmark,
2013-07-01 22:24
(4734 d 01:55 ago)

@ Ken Peh
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 F values in ANOVA table

Hi Ken,

❝ Wonder which is the correct one :confused:. Appreciate if there is feedback from the group members.


There is a bit of religion in this but there seems to be widespread acceptance that the inter-subject variation should be applicable to the sequence or carry-over effect since it is an inter-subject term. Since SAS did not apply the between-MS for you I can imagine that you have omitted the random statement in your SAS code?

Pass or fail!
ElMaestro
Ken Peh
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Malaysia,
2013-07-02 11:49
(4733 d 12:29 ago)

@ ElMaestro
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 F values in ANOVA table

Dear ElMaestro,

Thank you for your feedback. I have got excellent explanation from the thread given by Ohlbe.

Regards,
Ken
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