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AngusMcLean ★★ USA, 2013-06-11 22:17 (4751 d 01:51 ago) Posting: # 10771 Views: 8,042 |
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We have done a BE study in normal volunteers using equal numbers of male and female subjects. I ran the BE data analysis in the usual way in Phoenix WinNonlin 6.3 and obtained the confidence intervals. Since we suspect a gender difference for this drug I then included gender in the model as recommended by Helmut (see below) "Have a column denoting gender (0/1, f/m, whateveryoulike...) and map it in the BE setup as "Classification". Model Specification (Fixed Effects): sequence+period+treatment+gender+treatment*gender Example from one of my studies (6×3 Williams’ design):" I repeated my data analysis for BE and I found that the confidence intervals were slightly different. The outcome for the BE assessment was not changed. The ANOVA p value was 0.08 so the gender effect was not significant. Under what circumstances would one use the BE data analysis with gender in the model. Angus Edit: Category changed. Plese don’t use all capitals in the future. [Helmut] |
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ElMaestro ★★★ Denmark, 2013-06-11 22:47 (4751 d 01:21 ago) @ AngusMcLean Posting: # 10772 Views: 6,889 |
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Hi Angus, ❝ The ANOVA p value was 0.08 so the gender effect was not significant. Under what circumstances would one use the BE data analysis with gender in the model. This is in my opinion just like a group effect. I wouldn't worry too much about a plain gender effect; in CO studies it will be a between-factor anyway, and genders do differ in terms of size, shape, plasma volume and just about anything else. Gender x Treatment is another matter; it would be a very surprising finding if it comes out significant and could in my opinion be followed up by additional questions; ideally this is only academic - wouldn't want to have a study with [Women, Test] being different from [Women, Ref]= [Men, Test]=[Men, Ref] and so on. Since we don't deal with group x treatment effects in other types of studies I think one could along the same lines often justify a model without gender effects unless there is a specific reason to think otherwise. Same could be said for hair color, music preference or anamnetic presence of altitude sickness among relatives. — Pass or fail! ElMaestro |
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Dr_Dan ★★ Germany, 2013-06-12 11:57 (4750 d 12:11 ago) @ AngusMcLean Posting: # 10775 Views: 6,770 |
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Dear Angus Maybe it would be helpful (at least interesting) to have a look at this thread: Kind regards Dan — Kind regards and have a nice day Dr_Dan |
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Helmut ★★★ ![]() Vienna, Austria, 2013-06-12 15:45 (4750 d 08:22 ago) @ Dr_Dan Posting: # 10776 Views: 7,065 |
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Dear Dan & all! ❝ Maybe it would be helpful (at least interesting) to have a look at this thread: THX for bringing this goodie back to our attention! I like to share another story with you. Within 2000 and 2007 we performed six studies with MPH. As this was our standard we included both sexes. Furthermore, no gender-related difference in PK are reported in the literature. The last protocol was not accepted by the German BfArM: A justification according to §7(2)12 GCP-V1 why the chosen sex distribution in the group of trial subjects is appropriate in order to identify possible sex-specific differences in the efficacy or safety of the investigational medicinal product being tested is missing. ![]() We gave in and added an explorative analysis of gender differences2 to the SAP. In subsequent studies the sponsor opted for males only… ![]() In the course of a type II variation this year the RMS Germany raised in their Preliminary Variation Assessment Report (PVAR) the following Question (in V.2.3 Clinical efficacy):
— Dif-tor heh smusma 🖖🏼 Довге життя Україна! ![]() Helmut Schütz ![]() The quality of responses received is directly proportional to the quality of the question asked. 🚮 Science Quotes |
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AngusMcLean ★★ USA, 2013-06-15 17:10 (4747 d 06:57 ago) @ Dr_Dan Posting: # 10801 Views: 6,283 |
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Dr._Dan: Thank you for directing me towards this interesting discussion. It appears to me that the trend of the results of the two studies indicate to me that exposure of the drug in males is higher than females for both studies. It just so happens that in the second study the difference was less pronounced. No; it is not a statistical artifact. The formulations are different. I am thinking that we have a modified release formulation here and the rate of absorption of the drug is different between the two formulations (test and Reference). The test formulation is slower absorbing? Could it be that the difference in genders is due to the more pronounced metabolism of the drug by females relative to males? Are you allowed to say if the drug is highly metabolized? Angus |



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