AB ☆ India, 2012-04-27 16:38 (4743 d 18:01 ago) Posting: # 8465 Views: 5,252 |
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Dear all, we did a BE study for FDA partial (reference-replicated 3-way). we used the code as given in FDA draft guidance So we used the below statement of code for calculation of point estimate Geomean_ratio= pointest/ poinREF; However one of our other statisticain used the below statement Geomean_ratio= pointest; Both of them gave a different value, So please let us know what is correct ASAP. Many thanks in advance — Regards, AB |
Helmut ★★★ ![]() ![]() Vienna, Austria, 2012-04-27 17:01 (4743 d 17:37 ago) @ AB Posting: # 8466 Views: 4,339 |
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Dear AB! ❝ we used the code as given in FDA draft guidance ❝ ❝ So we used the below statement of code for calculation of point estimate ❝ Geomean_ratio= pointest/ poinREF; ❝ However one of our other statisticain used the below statement ❝ Geomean_ratio= pointest; Hhm. Why didn’t you use the code exactly as given by the FDA (see here)? Since the analysis is done on log-transformed data you must back-transform the estimate. ❝ […] So please let us know what is correct ASAP. ASAP sends me into hibernation state. We are posting here in our free time! I love deadlines. — Dif-tor heh smusma 🖖🏼 Довге життя Україна! ![]() Helmut Schütz ![]() The quality of responses received is directly proportional to the quality of the question asked. 🚮 Science Quotes |
d_labes ★★★ Berlin, Germany, 2012-04-27 17:21 (4743 d 17:18 ago) @ AB Posting: # 8467 Views: 4,325 |
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Dear AB, Sorry but none is correct ![]() estimate=log(µT)-log(µR) . Recalling your school math you will obtain the point estimator back-transformed to the original values byexp(estimate) = exp(log(µT)-log(µR)) = exp(log(µT))/exp(log(µR)) = µT/µR . To cite the guidance: "From the dataset IGLM2, calculate the following: IGLM2: pointest=exp(estimate); "The ratio µT/µR is sometimes called geometric mean ratio (GMR). But this is only an approximately valid statement. See for that Hauschke, Steinijans, Pigeot "Bioequivalence Studies in Drug Development" Wiley, Chichester (2007) Chapter 3.2.2 "The lognormal distribution" Ouch! Helmut has outpaced my post ![]() Full ACK with his statement concerning ASAP. — Regards, Detlew |
AB ☆ India, 2012-04-28 09:13 (4743 d 01:25 ago) @ d_labes Posting: # 8471 Views: 4,127 |
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Dear HS & d_labes, I have mentioned "ASAP" as it was very urgent. Many thanks for the quick & timely detailed reply (as usually) even though it is titled as "As slow as possible" by HS. I will definitely avoid it in future. — Regards, AB |