SriRam ☆ India, 2012-04-08 09:49 (4762 d 11:12 ago) Posting: # 8395 Views: 8,820 |
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![]() I have a question regarding calculation of bioavailability using WinNonlin.
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Helmut ★★★ ![]() ![]() Vienna, Austria, 2012-04-08 14:41 (4762 d 06:20 ago) @ SriRam Posting: # 8396 Views: 8,032 |
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Dear SriRam, nice image – where does it come from? ❝ 1. How does WinNonlin report bioavailability? (Parameters considered) See the manual of version 4.1, pp234–244. Note that the current version is Phoenix/WinNonlin 6.3. You can get a free trial-license from Pharsight. To calculate the bioavailability use the bioequivalence wizard, setting the iv dose as reference and po as test. For NDAs generally a 95% confidence interval (rather than the 90% CI in bioequivalence) is used. ❝ 2. […] the Bioavailability equation (F = DNAUC po / DNAUC iv) Valid for Both Linear Pharmacokinetics (Linear and stationary) and Nonlinear Pharmacokinetics What does “N” in the equation stand for? If linear pharmacokinetics are applicable the equation of your image is correct (see also here). What do you mean by “stationary”? If linear PK is not established (yet) or PK is known to be nonlinear you cannot use the dose-correction. Administer equal doses and calculate f = AUCpo/AUCiv or F = 100 × AUCpo/AUCiv. <nitpicking terminology> Note the difference between f and F. </nitpicking terminology>— Dif-tor heh smusma 🖖🏼 Довге життя Україна! ![]() Helmut Schütz ![]() The quality of responses received is directly proportional to the quality of the question asked. 🚮 Science Quotes |
SriRam ☆ India, 2012-04-08 17:02 (4762 d 04:00 ago) @ Helmut Posting: # 8397 Views: 7,908 |
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Dear HS, ❝ nice image – where does it come from? The image is a part of publication (Link given below the image) ❝ To get the bioavailability use the bioequivalence wizard, setting the iv dose as reference and po as test. Thank you very much as this was the solution I was trying for to calculate bioavailability using the software. F = DNAUC po / DNAUC iv "N" stands for Dose "NORMALISED". ❝ If linear pharmacokinetics are applicable the equation of your image is correct. Can you explain other Corrections (apart from dose) OR Normalisations as the image shows equations considering Clearance and T1/2 for Calculating Bioavailabiliy in case of Nonlinear PK. ❝ Administer equal doses and calculate f = AUCpo/AUCiv or F = 100 × AUCpo/AUCiv. Monetary implications restrict the repeat of study, so any suggestions USING software simulation or applying corrections to arrive at the correct "F" Can you give me a practical implication of Calculating Bioavailability for a NONLINEAR PK data and its difference from LINEAR equation. Thank you for your valuble inputs. Edit: Standard quotes restored; please keep them in the future. [Helmut] — R.Sriram DMPK. |
Helmut ★★★ ![]() ![]() Vienna, Austria, 2012-04-09 04:20 (4761 d 16:42 ago) @ SriRam Posting: # 8398 Views: 8,055 |
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Dear SriRam! ❝ F = DNAUC po / DNAUC iv ❝ "N" stands for Dose "NORMALISED". OK; in WinNonlin’s NCA module you get the following dose-normalized metrics: Cmax_D , AUCINF_D_obs , and AUCINF_D_pred where “_D ” stands for “divided by dose”. I would suggest to use the lin-up/log-down trapezoidal rule and AUCINF_pred (uncorrected) / AUCINF_D_pred (dose-corrected). Use these metrics as dependent variables in the BE wizard.❝ ❝ If linear pharmacokinetics are applicable the equation of your image is correct. ❝ Can you explain other Corrections (apart from dose)… I don’t know your study design. Was the iv dose the same for all subjects or individualized (like D/kg body weight, D/m², or D/1.73m²)? In the latter case you can use one of the “Normalization” options in WinNonlin’s NCA setup. ❝ … OR Normalisations as the image shows equations considering Clearance and T1/2 for Calculating Bioavailabiliy in case of Nonlinear PK. Forget it. The paper misquotes Wagner (1967)[1] who suggested this method for across-study comparisons. The theoretical background for BA studies was derived by Koup & Gibaldi (1980)[2] based on the assumption that the clearance, CL, is not necessarily constant in the same subject between treatments, but that the volume of distribution, V, is. The latter assumption is reasonable unless drastic physiologic changes are taking place during the course of the study, e.g. changes in protein concentration, adipose tissue fraction of body weight, hydration state, etc. Therefore, (1) F = (CLtest·AUCtest)/(CLref·AUCref)·Dref/Dtest Assuming V is constant and substituting V·k for clearance, where k is the terminal disposition rate constant, it follows that,(2) F = (AUCtest·ktest)/(AUCref·kref)·Dref/Dtest or,(3) F = (AUCtest·t½,ref)/(AUCref·t½,test)·Dref/Dtest Both (2) and (3) have been used in NDA BE studies. Abdallah (1998)[3] gave an example where the CV was reduced from 35% to 18% (the CI shrank from 88–130% to 99–113%). He also performed simulations showing that the area correction reduced the CV only for drugs with highly variable clearance; if the variability resides in the volume of distribution and/or absorption the method worsened the situation. Gibaldi & Perrier (1982)4 suggested that“It is probably reasonable to attempt the half-life correction in most bioavailability studies but to accept it only when it results in a substantial decrease in the standard deviation of the mean value of F or FR.” It was also noted by Koup & Gibaldi[2] that area correction should be avoided when a systematic difference in k appears to exist between the test and reference treatments, as this most likely reflects a difference in absorption rather than variability in clearance. Note that the area correction was developed in the context of bioequivalence – not for absolute bioavailability studies. It might well be that different k values are not due to variable clearances but an artifact (you are not able to estimate them with the same precision). Personally I have not seen its application in BA.❝ ❝ Administer equal doses and calculate f = AUCpo/AUCiv or F = 100 × AUCpo/AUCiv. ❝ ❝ Monetary implications restrict the repeat of study, so any suggestions USING software simulation or applying corrections to arrive at the correct "F" Do you have a study protocol? What does it say? On the other hand BA studies of NCEs are exploratory in nature – so you have some headspace. If doses where not too far apart (let’s say by a factor of two) it wouldn’t bother me too much. Don’t be tempted to use the area-correction. Keep it simple. ❝ Can you give me a practical implication of Calculating Bioavailability for a NONLINEAR PK data and its difference from LINEAR equation. Sorry that’s not possible – unless you have data of at least three iv and po doses.
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SriRam ☆ India, 2012-04-09 17:40 (4761 d 03:21 ago) @ Helmut Posting: # 8400 Views: 7,741 |
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Dear HS, I thank you a lot for those references, they were a lot helpful for me to apply for future PK simulations. I will keep posting for more clarifications on specific practical examples. All the best for the efforts the forum has taken to bring the like minded on a platform. — R.Sriram DMPK. |