jag009
★★★

NJ,
2013-08-21 18:06
(4686 d 04:05 ago)

Posting: # 11332
Views: 4,436
 

 PowerTOST question [Software]

Hi all,

Can someone run powerTOST in R to confirm the ISCV from the following:

1. CVfromCI(lower=0.8341, upper=0.9536, n=55, design="2x3x3", alpha=0.05, robust=TRUE)
2. CVfromCI(lower=0.7909, upper=0.9258, n=55, design="2x3x3", alpha=0.05, robust=TRUE)
3. CVfromCI(lower=0.7985, upper=0.9240, n=55, design="2x3x3", alpha=0.05, robust=TRUE)


My Results from R:
1. 0.2456493 or 24.56%
2. 0.2905871 or 29.06%
3. 0.2685729 or 26.86%


The result for 2 and 3 is a bit strange. The CIs are very similar and yet the ISCVs differ by 0.032 or in percentage = 3.2%?

Here are the T/R ratios:
1. 0.8918
2. 0.8557
3. 0.8589


I am running the latest PowerTOST....

Thanks
John
d_labes
★★★

Berlin, Germany,
2013-08-22 11:21
(4685 d 10:50 ago)

@ jag009
Posting: # 11335
Views: 3,500
 

 PowerTOST CVfromCI

Dear John,

❝ Can someone run powerTOST in R to confirm the ISCV from the following:


Of course :cool:.

Without repeating the numbers, my results are of course exactly the same as yours. Wouldn't expect something different since we are using the same software.

❝ The result for 2 and 3 is a bit strange.


Why? What is wrong with a 3.2% difference. IMHO not really big. Humans usually recognize 10% as a difference, f.i. 10 cent of a dollar, to desist from nickel nursers or from the Scotch (Beg your pardon Scotch ;-)).

One caveat! From the documentation of CVfromCI():"It is assumed that the sequence groups in a crossover study or the treatment arms in a parallel-group study are balanced. The estimated CV is conservative (i.e. greater than actually observed) in case of unbalanced studies." Emphasis by me.

You may check this (your studies are unbalanced) if you recalculate the CI's from the point estimators, n and the obtained CV. Example 2 of your post:
n  <- 55
df <- n-3 # robust
bk <- 1.5 # design constant for 2x3x3
CV <- 0.2905871
point <- 0.8557
# CI in the log-transformed domain
CI <- log(point) + c(-1,1)*qt(0.95,df)*sqrt(bk*CV2mse(CV)/n)
CI <- exp(CI) # back transformation

gives nearly the same interval than the original:
0.7909039 0.9258046 # back calculated
0.7909    0.9258    # original

Seems the un-balancedness is not a problem here.

Regards,

Detlew
UA Flag
Activity
 Admin contact
23,655 posts in 4,993 threads, 1,570 registered users;
132 visitors (0 registered, 132 guests [including 23 identified bots]).
Forum time: 22:11 CEST (Europe/Vienna)

I have finally come to the konklusion
that a good reliable set ov bowels
iz worth more to a man
than enny quantity of brains.    Josh Billings

The Bioequivalence and Bioavailability Forum is hosted by
BEBAC Ing. Helmut Schütz
HTML5