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2011-10-05 18:27
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 Intra subject variability [Power / Sample Size]

Hi I am Maulik here.

I am a new member of this family.

i am very much impressed with the topic that had discussion hence i am trying to solve my doubts.

hope i will be satisfied.

I have a question that if "A" drug having the intra subject variability >30% hence BE range will be broader than 80-125% now if i do a study with "A" drug considering as a standard and comparing my test drug "B" and i found intra subject variability <30% (by any reason) for "A" drug. Then my BE range will be more than 80-125% or it will be stringent to 80-125%?

I hope you understand.


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2011-10-05 19:51
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 Scaling?

Dear Maulik!

❝ I am a new member of this family.


Welcome to the club.

❝ I have a question that if "A" drug having the intra subject variability >30% hence BE range will be broader than 80-125% now if i do a study with "A" drug considering as a standard and comparing my test drug "B" and i found intra subject variability <30% (by any reason) for "A" drug. Then my BE range will be more than 80-125% or it will be stringent to 80-125%?


❝ I hope you understand.


Only if I substitute ‘drug’ by ‘formulation’. If you have a highly variable drug (CVintra of a solution >30%) I don’t expect to see a CV <30% for the formulation. The acceptance range for highly variable drugs / drug products (HVDs/HVDPs) depends on the regulation. Scaling or widening may be applicable, e.g.,
  • FDA: AUC and/or Cmax if CV ≥30% in a replicate design
  • EMA: Only for Cmax if no safety concerns (high variability alone is not enough) and CV >30% in a replicate design
  • Canada: Scaling for AUC under consideration, no confidence interval required for Cmax (only T/R within 80–125%)
  • New Zealand: Cmax 75–133% if no safety concerns, no replicate design necessary
  • Russia: Cmax 75–133% (all drugs, no replicate design necessary)
If the CVintra (of the reference!) in the study <30% you are not allowed to scale / widen the acceptance range. See FDA’s progesterone guidance (Step 1a) and EMA’s BE guideline (Section 4.1.10).

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2011-10-06 16:46
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 Intra subject variability

Hi Maulik,
If I have understood your question correctly, the 90% CI for your test formulation will be within 80 to 125%. If you are trying to know something else, pl clarify


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2011-10-06 18:16
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 Intra subject variability

Dear Vinay,

great to have you here; congrat's to your first post. :ok:

❝ […] the 90% CI for your test formulation will be within 80 to 125%.


I would rather say: […] the 90% CI for your test formulation has to be within 80 to 125% (since CV <30% – no widening will be acceptable in many countries).

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