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BE-proff ● 2016-12-03 21:53 (3484 d 10:59 ago) Posting: # 16829 Views: 7,913 |
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Hi All, Let's say I have the followind results after typical BE-study: n=30, CV=0.20, ratio=0.97, UL=1.02 and LL=0.92 if I want to calculate power using default settings of PowerTOST I see: power.TOST(CV=0.20, n=30)If to add ratio I have: power.TOST(CV=0.20, n=30, theta0=0.97)If to use also limits of CI result the result is: power.TOST(CV=0.20, n=30, theta0=0.97, theta1=0.92, theta2=1.02) ![]() Do I use formulas correcly and which option is better? ![]() |
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Helmut ★★★ ![]() Vienna, Austria, 2016-12-04 15:16 (3483 d 17:37 ago) @ BE-proff Posting: # 16832 Views: 7,459 |
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Hi BE-proff, ❝ Let's say I have the followind results after typical BE-study: ❝ n=30, CV=0.20, ratio=0.97, UL=1.02 and LL=0.92 The study passed by a nice margin. Why are you interested in the irrelevant post hoc power? BTW, I cannot reproduce your 90% CI: library(PowerTOST)Only with a strange α: round(CI.BE(alpha=0.147, pe=0.97, CV=0.2, n=30), 2)1. ❝ if I want to calculate power using default settings of PowerTOST I see: ❝ ❝ Sure. Type help(power.TOST) in the console. You will find:theta0Defaults to 0.95. theta1Lower bioequivalence limit. Defaults to 0.8. theta2Upper bioequivalence limit. If not given So you are essentially asking which power can be expected with a CV of 0.20, assuming theta0 0.95, and the conventional acceptance range of 0.8–1.25. Works as designed.2. ❝ If to add ratio I have: ❝ ❝ That’s the post hoc (aka a posteriori) power of the study. 3. ❝ If to use also limits of CI result the result is: ❝ ❝ Now you asking for the power to show BE where the acceptance range practically equals the CI in the study. Of course this chance is very low. ❝ Do I use formulas correcly and which option is better?
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BE-proff ● 2016-12-04 22:46 (3483 d 10:06 ago) @ Helmut Posting: # 16834 Views: 6,503 |
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Hi Helmut, I should confess - it was fictitious "study" just to show calculations ![]() But is it correct that post hoc power calculations are not necessary? What to do if post hoc power is 65% while a study protocol requires at least 80%? ![]() |
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Helmut ★★★ ![]() Vienna, Austria, 2016-12-05 02:04 (3483 d 06:49 ago) @ BE-proff Posting: # 16835 Views: 6,578 |
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Hi BE-proff, ❝ But is it correct that post hoc power calculations are not necessary? Necessary – for whom? ❝ What to do if post hoc power is 65% while a study protocol requires at least 80%? Being lucky is not a crime. (© ElMaestro) Open a bottle of champagne. Once you are in the right mood search the forum for some answers. — Dif-tor heh smusma 🖖🏼 Довге життя Україна! ![]() Helmut Schütz ![]() The quality of responses received is directly proportional to the quality of the question asked. 🚮 Science Quotes |
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ElMaestro ★★★ Denmark, 2016-12-10 17:22 (3477 d 15:30 ago) @ BE-proff Posting: # 16836 Views: 6,169 |
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Hi BE-proff, to say it in a different manner, but stating the same: Q: How to calculate power correctly? A: By doing it before the trial (especially if 'correctly' means 'meaningfully'). — Pass or fail! ElMaestro |




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