jag009 ★★★ NJ, 2016-06-04 00:39 (3250 d 13:54 ago) Posting: # 16394 Views: 4,496 |
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Hi everyone, I was doing some RSABE refreshments (yeah getting old) and noticed a disparity between sample size generated by PowerTost & Endrenyi vs a paper from B. Davit et al. Davit et al published a table showing the sample sizes for a 4-way replicate study design for a series of intrasubject CVs with GMR set at 1.0 and power=80%. CV Davit PowerTost 30% 18 1545% 34 1660% 56 1775% 80 19I didn't tabulate results from Endrenyi's paper since the numbers are similar to the ones from PowerTOST. I can't confirm how Davit et al's paper arrived with their numbers since the article didn't mention the origin of those values. The paper is: B. Davit et al. Implementation of a Reference-Scaled Average Bioequivalence Approach for Highly Variable Generic Drug Products by the US Food and Drug Administration. The AAPS Journal, Vol. 14, No. 4, December 2012 Thanks John |
Helmut ★★★ ![]() ![]() Vienna, Austria, 2016-06-04 03:34 (3250 d 10:58 ago) @ jag009 Posting: # 16395 Views: 3,687 |
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Hi John, these sample sizes are for ABE; Barbara wrote above „As shown in Table I, the number of study subjects needed to show BE increases dramatically for HV drugs.” CV% GMR Davit sampleN.TOST EFG In PowerTOST I got identical sample sizes with the exact method (Owen’s Q), the noncentral t-distribution, and the shifted t-distribution. Same sample sizes like PowerTOST’s in ElMaestro’s EFG. No idea how Barbara got her’s. This is not what me worries in the paper. Since Detlew coined “FDA’s desired consumer risk model” hocus-pocus, this is the term László uses ever since. Once I had lunch with him and Barbara and she wasn’t able to explain what it actually means. We guess it’s sort of black magic to make to inflation of the TIE in RSABE look better. Let’s see her example on p.922: library(PowerTOST) She reported 0.046434. Hocus-pocus – the rabbit is back in the hat. Strong desires can move mountains. See also: Muñoz J, Alcaide D, Ocaña J. Consumer's risk in the EMA and FDA regulatory approaches for bioequivalence in highly variable drugs. Stat Med. 2016;35(12):1933–43. doi 10.1002/sim.6834 — Dif-tor heh smusma 🖖🏼 Довге життя Україна! ![]() Helmut Schütz ![]() The quality of responses received is directly proportional to the quality of the question asked. 🚮 Science Quotes |