Jay
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India,
2015-11-02 11:47
(3465 d 07:13 ago)

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 Sample size with CV more than 100% [Power / Sample Size]

Dear all,

In pilot study results of a modified release molecule, the CV obtained for AUC5-t is 114% and the T/R is around 88%.

Can one use CV for more than 100% i.e. 114% in above case for the calculation of pivotal sample size.

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Jay
d_labes
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Berlin, Germany,
2015-11-02 12:08
(3465 d 06:51 ago)

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 Why not?

Dear Jay,

❝ In pilot study results of a modified release molecule, the CV obtained for AUC5-t is 114% and the T/R is around 88%.

❝ Can one use CV for more than 100% i.e. 114% in above case for the calculation of pivotal sample size.


If you believe in that CV's, i.e. all was OK with the study conduct:
Why not?

There is not theoretical bound in the CV, beside it has to be > zero.

Regards,

Detlew
Jay
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India,
2015-11-02 12:29
(3465 d 06:30 ago)

@ d_labes
Posting: # 15599
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 Why not?

Dear d_labes,

Thanks for the response.

If CV of one parameter such as AUC5-t is observed more than 100% while for other parameter such as Cmax, Auc0-5 or AUCinf is within 20-30%. So should one go for full replicate design and sample size estimation based on highest CV observed as 114%.

Regard,
Jay
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2015-11-02 14:06
(3465 d 04:53 ago)

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 Sample size for HVD's

Dear Jay,

❝ If CV of one parameter such as AUC5-t is observed more than 100% while for other parameter such as Cmax, Auc0-5 or AUCinf is within 20-30%. So should one go for full replicate design and sample size estimation based on highest CV observed as 114%.


If you have to show bioequivalence also for the partial AUC's your sample size is clearly driven by the CV of that PK metric.

To go with a full replicate design has only advantages if you aim to show bioequivalence via scaled average bioequivalence. Sample size for the FDA recommended method for HVD's (target power 80%):
library(PowerTOST)
sampleN.RSABE(CV=1.14, theta0=0.9, design="2x2x4")

++++++++ Reference scaled ABE crit. +++++++++
           Sample size estimation
---------------------------------------------
Study design:  2x2x4 (full replicate)
log-transformed data (multiplicative model)
1e+05 studies for each step simulated.

alpha  = 0.05, target power = 0.8
CVw(T) = 1.14; CVw(R) = 1.14
Null (true) ratio = 0.9
ABE limits / PE constraints = 0.8 ... 1.25
Regulatory settings: FDA
- CVswitch =  0.3
- Regulatory constant = 0.8925742

Sample size search
 n     power
44   0.79442
46   0.80099


But that's in Europe a no go for AUC values. Here scaled ABE (via widened acceptance limits, ABEL) is only allowed for Cmax, which in your study came out as not highly variable.
Thus you have to stuck with conventional ABE.
sampleN.TOST(CV=1.14, theta0=0.9, design="2x2x4")

+++++++++++ Equivalence test - TOST +++++++++++
            Sample size estimation
-----------------------------------------------
Study design:  2x2x4 replicate crossover
log-transformed data (multiplicative model)

alpha = 0.05, target power = 0.8
BE margins        = 0.8 ... 1.25
Null (true) ratio = 0.9,  CV = 1.14

Sample size (total)
 n     power
372   0.800404


See also this recent thread for a more extreme example.

Regards,

Detlew
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2015-11-02 15:35
(3465 d 03:25 ago)

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 EMA: MR – ABEL for partial AUCs

Dear Detlew and Jay,

❝ ❝ If CV of one parameter such as AUC5-t is observed more than 100% while for other parameter such as Cmax, Auc0-5 or AUCinf is within 20-30%. So should one go for full replicate design and sample size estimation based on highest CV observed as 114%.


IMHO it is rather unusual for MR-products that the late partial AUC is more variable than the early one. Was this behavior due to an “outlying” subject? If yes, which CV do you get after exclusion? I would be cautious to draw premature conclusions.

❝ But that's in Europe a no go for AUC values. Here scaled ABE (via widened acceptance limits, ABEL) is only allowed for Cmax, […]



Disagree. The MR-GL (Section 6.8.2.2.) allows ABEL for partial AUCs. Hence,

library(PowerTOST)
sampleN.scABEL(CV=1.14, theta0=0.9, design="2x2x4")

+++++++++++ scaled (widened) ABEL +++++++++++
            Sample size estimation
---------------------------------------------
Study design:  2x2x4 (full replicate)
log-transformed data (multiplicative model)
1e+05 studies for each step simulated.

alpha  = 0.05, target power = 0.8
CVw(T) = 1.14; CVw(R) = 1.14
Null (true) ratio = 0.9
ABE limits / PE constraints = 0.8 ... 1.25
Regulatory settings: EMA
- CVswitch =  0.3, cap on scABEL if CVw(R) > 0.5
- Regulatory constant = 0.76

Sample size search
 n     power
80   0.7954
82   0.8049


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Berlin, Germany,
2015-11-02 15:48
(3465 d 03:11 ago)

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 EMA: MR – ABEL for partial AUCs

Dear Helmut,

❝ Disagree. The MR-GL (Section 6.8.2.2.) allows ABEL for partial AUCs.


Thanks for teaching me, I'm obviously not up to date :-(.

Regards,

Detlew
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