Power with Fieller [General Statistics]
Hi Martin,
the term “fiducial probability” always scares me shitless. Let’s see:
Not sure whether it is correct to simply plug in your sd 0.25 as CV into PowerTOST (though the mean is 1):
Reminds me on the good ol’ days where people started to analyse log-transformed data in BE, but kept the acceptance range at ±20%. Maximum power at 0.9798.
I’m not familiar with this kind of stuff, but doesn’t the analysis work with untransformed data, i.e., Δ ±0.2 → 0.8–1.20?
the term “fiducial probability” always scares me shitless. Let’s see:
var.equal=F1 var.equal=T2 PowerTOST1
0.975 0.20600 0.20765 0.2104624
1.000 0.22331 0.22842 0.2288324
1.025 0.23282 0.23900 0.2382360
← larger than at 1 (all methods)1.950 0.23159 0.23411 0.2365934
Not sure whether it is correct to simply plug in your sd 0.25 as CV into PowerTOST (though the mean is 1):
power.RatioF(alpha=0.05, theta1=0.8, theta2=1.25, theta0=1, CV=0.25, n=20, design="parallel")
. However, the same tendency.Reminds me on the good ol’ days where people started to analyse log-transformed data in BE, but kept the acceptance range at ±20%. Maximum power at 0.9798.

I’m not familiar with this kind of stuff, but doesn’t the analysis work with untransformed data, i.e., Δ ±0.2 → 0.8–1.20?
- References:
- Homogenous variances
Fieller EC. Some problems in interval estimation. J Royal Stat Soc B. 1954:16(2);175–85. online
- Heterogenous variances
Tamhane AC, Logan BR. Finding the maximum safe dose level for heteroscedastic data. J Biopharm Stat. 2004:14(4);843–56. doi 10.1081/BIP-200035413
Hasler M, Vonk R, Hothorn LA. Assessing non-inferiority of a new treatment in a three arm trial in the presence of heteroscedasticity. Stat Med. 2008:27(4);490–503. doi 10.1002/sim.3052
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