## Parallel designs (total variance) [Power / Sample Size]

Thanks for your response Helmut.

Well, I am not sure how to estimate the sample size for a parallel design? The formula that I am using uses inter-subject variability and the reference is attached (Tutorial in Biostatisitcs: Sample sizes for clinical trials with Normal data by Steven A. Julious). Formula is on page 1970 #69. But how would you get the inter-subject variability from the ANOVA for parallel design in order to calculate the sample size. Thanks for the reference, I'll take a look.

Re: 60% of inter to estimate the intra: I am a statistician and I routinely see the PK individuals taking 60% of inter to be the intra for estimating sample size for a crossover design and always wondered about the validity of the approach.

Appreciate your feedback!

Nav

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Well, I am not sure how to estimate the sample size for a parallel design? The formula that I am using uses inter-subject variability and the reference is attached (Tutorial in Biostatisitcs: Sample sizes for clinical trials with Normal data by Steven A. Julious). Formula is on page 1970 #69. But how would you get the inter-subject variability from the ANOVA for parallel design in order to calculate the sample size. Thanks for the reference, I'll take a look.

Re: 60% of inter to estimate the intra: I am a statistician and I routinely see the PK individuals taking 60% of inter to be the intra for estimating sample size for a crossover design and always wondered about the validity of the approach.

Appreciate your feedback!

Nav

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**Edit:**Full quote removed. Please see this post! [Jaime]### Complete thread:

- Sample size estimation for parallel design Nav Coelho 2007-07-20 16:14 [Power / Sample Size]
- Parallel designs (total variance) Helmut 2007-07-20 16:29
- Parallel designs (total variance)Nav Coelho 2007-07-20 18:38
- CV-intra # 60% CV-inter Helmut 2007-07-22 01:17
- total (pooled) variance: examples Helmut 2007-07-23 17:44
- total (pooled) variance: examples Nav Coelho 2007-07-23 19:58
- total (pooled) variance: examples BEQool 2023-04-18 09:59
- Higher-Order Crossovers Helmut 2023-04-20 10:19
- Higher-Order Crossovers BEQool 2023-04-21 07:53

- total (pooled) variance: examples zizou 2023-04-21 21:23
- total (pooled) variance: examples BEQool 2023-04-22 18:20
- total (pooled) variance: examples zizou 2023-04-22 21:06
- total (pooled) variance: examples BEQool 2023-04-25 10:57
- total (pooled) variance: examples zizou 2023-04-25 22:43
- total (pooled) variance: examples BEQool 2023-05-04 08:17

- total (pooled) variance: examples zizou 2023-04-25 22:43

- total (pooled) variance: examples BEQool 2023-04-25 10:57

- total (pooled) variance: examples zizou 2023-04-22 21:06

- total (pooled) variance: examples BEQool 2023-04-22 18:20

- Higher-Order Crossovers Helmut 2023-04-20 10:19

- Parallel designs (total variance)Nav Coelho 2007-07-20 18:38
- Sample size estimation for parallel design Dipesh Jayswal 2007-07-24 08:52

- Parallel designs (total variance) Helmut 2007-07-20 16:29