Lognormal vs. truncated normal [🇷 for BE/BA]
Hi John!
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I don’t have the referred literature but I have strong doubts that the sample sizes in these scintigraphy studies were large enough to distinguish between normal and lognormal distributions. I would suspect that reported arithmetic means ± SD were (erroneously) used by Watanalumlerd et al. BTW, they employed a nice software named Crystal Ball. 
Time parameters in PK are a battleground. I wouldn’t opt for lognormal in simulations “because time cannot be negative” – unphysiological high values are still possible. I would rather go with a truncated normal (like in the paper of Csizmadia and Endrényi). The reasoning for truncated AUC72 is also based on the fact that a GI transit time of larger than 72 hours was never observed in any study.
❝ […] I saw from an article on "PK Modeling and Simulation of Mixed Pellets" by Watanalumlerd et at. The author listed a table:
❝ Parameter Distribution Mean+/-SD
❝ lag time of emptying Log-Normal 0.75+/-0.22
❝ He wrote "A lognormal distribution was chosen ... because time cannot be negative"
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Gastric emptying time, lag time of emptying, and their variability (standard deviation) were obtained from the literature […]. A lognormal distribution was chosen for all time parameters because time cannot be negative.
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Time parameters in PK are a battleground. I wouldn’t opt for lognormal in simulations “because time cannot be negative” – unphysiological high values are still possible. I would rather go with a truncated normal (like in the paper of Csizmadia and Endrényi). The reasoning for truncated AUC72 is also based on the fact that a GI transit time of larger than 72 hours was never observed in any study.
- Watanalumlerd P, Christensen JM, Ayres JW. Pharmacokinetic Modeling and Simulation of Gastrointestinal Transit Effects on Plasma Concentrations of Drugs from Mixed Immediate-Release and Enteric-Coated Pellet Formulations. Pharma Dev Technol. 2007;12:193–202. doi:10.1080/10837450701212750
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