and what about power? [BE/BA News]
Dear d_labes,
I agree.
Another practical issue for the sponsor will be power. In a normal BE study with a tablet having just one Cmax, the power is typiclly based on the expected T/R and the expected CV, the latter typically for Cmax as this is oftentimes slightly more variable than AUC.
In simple cases we might write something like P(Success) = P(BE AUC and Cmax) = P(BE AUC) * P(BE Cmax), but in reality Cmax and AUC are correlated and therefore the two components are not independent. It is implicitly assumed anyway when companies just ignore the less variable component and power the study for Cmax and assume that if Cmax is BE then AUC will be as well. This is a proven successful strategy as long as we don't talk inhalation products or other nasty things.
Now for the bi-phasic formulations. Here I am not sure what to do. I imagine a bunch of problems in practice. We will have four parameters that need to be BE, all of them are correlated. One could of course try and ID the most variable of them (Cmax,II?) and power on basis of that but I would certainly not feel comfortable to relay the message to management that the chancee of success is 80% if the dimensioning is based on power consideration for just one of the three/four parameters.
Finally, linear kinetics: How to assess it? What if something appears linear based on phase I but not really linear based on phase II?
❝ I think the discriminatory value of the partial AUC is well enough seen from the examples in the presentation.
❝ Thus the additional metrics only raise the burden.
I agree.
Another practical issue for the sponsor will be power. In a normal BE study with a tablet having just one Cmax, the power is typiclly based on the expected T/R and the expected CV, the latter typically for Cmax as this is oftentimes slightly more variable than AUC.
In simple cases we might write something like P(Success) = P(BE AUC and Cmax) = P(BE AUC) * P(BE Cmax), but in reality Cmax and AUC are correlated and therefore the two components are not independent. It is implicitly assumed anyway when companies just ignore the less variable component and power the study for Cmax and assume that if Cmax is BE then AUC will be as well. This is a proven successful strategy as long as we don't talk inhalation products or other nasty things.
Now for the bi-phasic formulations. Here I am not sure what to do. I imagine a bunch of problems in practice. We will have four parameters that need to be BE, all of them are correlated. One could of course try and ID the most variable of them (Cmax,II?) and power on basis of that but I would certainly not feel comfortable to relay the message to management that the chancee of success is 80% if the dimensioning is based on power consideration for just one of the three/four parameters.
Finally, linear kinetics: How to assess it? What if something appears linear based on phase I but not really linear based on phase II?
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Pass or fail!
ElMaestro
Pass or fail!
ElMaestro
Complete thread:
- EMA: Q&A on biphasic MR products Helmut 2012-03-06 15:23 [BE/BA News]
- EMA: Q&A on biphasic MR products ElMaestro 2012-03-06 19:09
- EMA: Q&A on biphasic MR products Helmut 2012-03-07 03:52
- EMA: Q&A on biphasic MR products ElMaestro 2012-03-07 19:20
- EMA: Q&A on biphasic MR products Helmut 2012-03-07 03:52
- EMA vs. FDA d_labes 2012-03-07 10:26
- MPH examples Helmut 2012-03-07 14:22
- MPH examples d_labes 2012-03-07 16:18
- MPH examples Helmut 2012-03-08 01:07
- FDA more straight? d_labes 2012-03-08 08:29
- and what about power?ElMaestro 2012-03-08 11:37
- and what about power? d_labes 2012-03-08 13:26
- and what about power? Helmut 2012-03-08 13:36
- FDA more straight? Helmut 2012-03-08 12:51
- FDA more straight? luvblooms 2012-03-09 06:55
- Multiphasic MR ≠ DR Helmut 2012-03-09 12:18
- Multiphasic MR ≠ DR jag009 2012-03-28 15:29
- Metadate CD (30/70) Helmut 2012-03-28 15:45
- Multiphasic MR ≠ DR jag009 2012-03-28 15:29
- Multiphasic MR ≠ DR Helmut 2012-03-09 12:18
- FDA more straight? luvblooms 2012-03-09 06:55
- and what about power?ElMaestro 2012-03-08 11:37
- FDA more straight? d_labes 2012-03-08 08:29
- MPH examples Helmut 2012-03-08 01:07
- MPH examples d_labes 2012-03-07 16:18
- MPH examples Helmut 2012-03-07 14:22
- EMA: Q&A on biphasic MR products ElMaestro 2012-03-06 19:09
