perspective from the PD world [NCA / SHAM]
Hi HS,
very good post and very well illustrated Clast isn't easy to work with.
Here is a perspective from the world of pharmacodynamics for inhaled products.
In some cases therapeutic equivalence is evaluated by giving patients a puff of the medicines and then measuring and comparing the lung function (often an endpoint called FEV1) over time. In certain cases clients of mine have been suggested to include FEV1 at the last sampling point in the comparison as one of the primaries.
This is every bit as bad as the story with Clast. I can certainly see why a regulator might want 'something like that' but I think we are getting away from proper science to semi-thought-through-solutions that sound intuitively correct but by closer scrutiny aren't really practical, feasible and valid for the reasons you already gave. For inhaled products FEV1max may have an intraCV of around 20% on a good day whereas the intraCV for FEV1last can exceed 80% when the same product (same brand, same batch) is dosed. That's pretty showstopping.
Solution: Treat guidelines as variable constants and confront regulators in an sc. advice application - is there any acceptable design that does not require evaluation of Clast (or FEV1last)? In one case I know of they caved in and accepted an alternative. Just unfortunate that this adds 3-4 months to the project plan.
very good post and very well illustrated Clast isn't easy to work with.
Here is a perspective from the world of pharmacodynamics for inhaled products.
In some cases therapeutic equivalence is evaluated by giving patients a puff of the medicines and then measuring and comparing the lung function (often an endpoint called FEV1) over time. In certain cases clients of mine have been suggested to include FEV1 at the last sampling point in the comparison as one of the primaries.
This is every bit as bad as the story with Clast. I can certainly see why a regulator might want 'something like that' but I think we are getting away from proper science to semi-thought-through-solutions that sound intuitively correct but by closer scrutiny aren't really practical, feasible and valid for the reasons you already gave. For inhaled products FEV1max may have an intraCV of around 20% on a good day whereas the intraCV for FEV1last can exceed 80% when the same product (same brand, same batch) is dosed. That's pretty showstopping.
Solution: Treat guidelines as variable constants and confront regulators in an sc. advice application - is there any acceptable design that does not require evaluation of Clast (or FEV1last)? In one case I know of they caved in and accepted an alternative. Just unfortunate that this adds 3-4 months to the project plan.
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Pass or fail!
ElMaestro
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ElMaestro
Complete thread:
- Cmin (story continued) Helmut 2011-06-22 17:03 [NCA / SHAM]
- Cmin (story continued) Marcel 2011-09-15 10:21
- Cmin (story continued) Helmut 2011-09-15 14:37
- Cmin (story continued) Marcel 2011-09-16 08:01
- Cmin (cave: lengthy post) Helmut 2011-09-16 13:26
- Cmin (cave: lengthy post) Marcel 2011-09-20 08:33
- Cmin no more? Helmut 2011-09-20 10:08
- perspective from the PD worldElMaestro 2011-09-20 10:01
- perspective from the PD world Helmut 2011-09-20 10:20
- Cmin (cave: lengthy post) Marcel 2011-09-20 08:33
- Cmin (cave: lengthy post) Helmut 2011-09-16 13:26
- Cmin (story continued) Marcel 2011-09-16 08:01
- Cmin (story continued) Helmut 2011-09-15 14:37
- Cmin (story continued) Marcel 2011-09-15 10:21