Cmin (cave: lengthy post) [NCA / SHAM]

posted by Helmut Homepage – Vienna, Austria, 2011-09-16 15:26 (4979 d 05:57 ago) – Posting: # 7361
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Dear Marcel!

❝ At what point do you think the increase in sample size becomes unethical?


Good question, next question. Gut feeling:* n>40 (T/R 0.95, power 0.80, CVintra just slightly >30%). That’s actually the sample size for HVDs/HVDPs.

❝ Do you have a good reference article that shows that Clast is considered unreliable?


No. I would not say it’s unreliable. Only:

❝ By Clast, you mean the sample taken ~5 minutes prior to dosing, right?


Yes. In the actual study we sampled 5 minutes prior to the 2nd dosing (1st period: 23:55) and at 24:00 post dose in the last profile (2nd period) in order to get values as close as possible to τ. We could reliably estimate λz. Since the study was balanced we had to estimate C24 from C23:55 in 50% of cases – we also used the estimated AUCτ. Another option would be to sample in all profiles at 23:55 (consistent with the IR GL, Section 4.1.4):

In multiple-dose studies, the pre-dose sample should be taken immediately before (within 5 minutes) dosing and the last sample is recommended to be taken within 10 minutes of the nominal time for the dosage interval to ensure an accurate determination of AUC(0-τ).


❝ Problems will continue to arise with steady state studies until this new draft guideline is released.


Right. Problems with the current NfG arise from its ambiguities:

4.1.1. Rate and extent of absorption, fluctuation
The pharmacokinetic parameters of interest are AUC, Cmax and Cmin or other means reflecting fluctuation.
5.1 Prolonged release formulations
Assessment of bioequivalence will be based on AUCτ, Cmax and Cmin applying similar statistical procedures as for the immediate release formulations.
(my emphases; note ‘and vs. or’)


Sorry for the lenghty post.



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