Steady state: Cmin / PTF [NCA / SHAM]
Dear all,
at the “EUFEPS BABP Network Open Discussion Forum” members of EMA’s PK-group unambigiously made clear what they mean by Cmin in steady state, namely the concentration at the end of the dosing interval. See also the presentation (slides 31–34) by Christoph Baumgärtel (AGES, raporteur for the MR-GL). See also a previous thread.
It’s important to check your software. If you use PHX/WNL, forget Cmin, Cavg, and Fluctuation% in the output – which are based on the global minimum within the dosage interval. I’ll ask Pharsight for an update – please do so as well, in order to speed things up.
In the meantime consider setting up a workaround by two Custom Column Transformations (to NCA Results, Final Parameters Pivoted):
New Column Name
Formula
New
New Column Name
Formula
I have no idea yet how to deal with missing values at the end of the dosing interval (tlast # τ). If you are able to estimate λz and tick [×] Intermediate Output in the Model Settings of NCA you get additionally the intercept (in log-scale) of the regression – which would allow to calculate an estimated Ĉmin value at t=τ. But this value is only given in the Core output (not available as a variable in the NCA Results)…
at the “EUFEPS BABP Network Open Discussion Forum” members of EMA’s PK-group unambigiously made clear what they mean by Cmin in steady state, namely the concentration at the end of the dosing interval. See also the presentation (slides 31–34) by Christoph Baumgärtel (AGES, raporteur for the MR-GL). See also a previous thread.
It’s important to check your software. If you use PHX/WNL, forget Cmin, Cavg, and Fluctuation% in the output – which are based on the global minimum within the dosage interval. I’ll ask Pharsight for an update – please do so as well, in order to speed things up.
In the meantime consider setting up a workaround by two Custom Column Transformations (to NCA Results, Final Parameters Pivoted):
New Column Name
Tau
Formula
24
← the numeric value of the dosing intervalNew
New Column Name
PTF
Formula
100*(Cmax-Clast)/(AUCtau/Tau)
I have no idea yet how to deal with missing values at the end of the dosing interval (tlast # τ). If you are able to estimate λz and tick [×] Intermediate Output in the Model Settings of NCA you get additionally the intercept (in log-scale) of the regression – which would allow to calculate an estimated Ĉmin value at t=τ. But this value is only given in the Core output (not available as a variable in the NCA Results)…
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Helmut Schütz
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Complete thread:
- Steady state: Cmin / PTFHelmut 2011-03-08 15:30 [NCA / SHAM]
- Steady state: Cmin / PTF SDavis 2012-02-06 14:00
- Steady state: Cmin / PTF Helmut 2012-02-06 14:24
- Is Cmin an atavism or not? Astea 2019-02-03 22:25
- Originators | generics (Cmin | Cτ) Helmut 2019-02-04 13:18
- Down with Big Brother Astea 2019-02-04 13:51
- Down with Big Brother Helmut 2019-02-04 14:43
- thoughtcrime Astea 2019-02-04 15:13
- blackwhite Helmut 2019-02-04 15:34
- animal farm Astea 2019-02-04 15:53
- blackwhite Helmut 2019-02-04 15:34
- thoughtcrime Astea 2019-02-04 15:13
- Down with Big Brother Helmut 2019-02-04 14:43
- Down with Big Brother Astea 2019-02-04 13:51
- Originators | generics (Cmin | Cτ) Helmut 2019-02-04 13:18
- Is Cmin an atavism or not? Astea 2019-02-03 22:25
- Steady state: Cmin / PTF Helmut 2012-02-06 14:24
- Steady state: Cmin / PTF SDavis 2012-02-06 14:00