evaluation of tmax: use of relative effects? [Nonparametrics]
dear d_labes and HS!
I spend some time on thinking how to compare tmax and have some doubts that using the difference between average values (e.g. medians, Hodges-Lehmann or Harrell-Davis estimate) is appropriate as the effect size in tmax between test and reference depends on the sampling times used.
For this reason I would suggest using relative effects (e.g. implemented in R package
Definition (taken from this presentation http://www.biopharmnet.com/doc/2010_05_20_webinar.pdf ):
"The relative effect is a a measure of how often a random subject receiving treatment X will outperform a random subject receiving treatment Y. It can be interpreted as a probability that a randomly selected patient in the control reveals a smaller response value than a randomly selected patient in the treatment group"
naive application of d_labes dataset:
what do you think about using relative effects for comparing tmax values between test and reference?
best regards
martin
I spend some time on thinking how to compare tmax and have some doubts that using the difference between average values (e.g. medians, Hodges-Lehmann or Harrell-Davis estimate) is appropriate as the effect size in tmax between test and reference depends on the sampling times used.
For this reason I would suggest using relative effects (e.g. implemented in R package
nparcomp
).Definition (taken from this presentation http://www.biopharmnet.com/doc/2010_05_20_webinar.pdf ):
"The relative effect is a a measure of how often a random subject receiving treatment X will outperform a random subject receiving treatment Y. It can be interpreted as a probability that a randomly selected patient in the control reveals a smaller response value than a randomly selected patient in the treatment group"
naive application of d_labes dataset:
npar.t.test(pdiff~sequence, conflevel = 0.1, data=PKt)
Nonparametric Behrens-Fisher Problem
NOTE:
*-----------Analysis of relative effects-----------*
- Confidence interval for relative effect p(i,j)
with confidence level 0.9
- Method = Delta-Method (Logit)
- p.perm = p-value of the Neubert-Brunner permutation test
- p-Values for H_0: p(i,j)=1/2
*----------------Interpretation--------------------*
p(a,b) > 1/2 : b tends to be larger than a
*-------------------Wilcox.Test--------------------*
- Asymptotic Wilcoxon Test
- In this setup you can only test H_0:F_i = F_j
*--------------------------------------------------*
$Data.Info
Sample Size
1 RT 7
2 TR 7
$Analysis.of.relative.effects
Comparison rel.effect confidence.interval t.value p.value p.perm
1 p(RT,TR) 0.633 [ 0.354 ; 0.844 ] 0.7804535 0.435 0.41
$Wilcoxon.Test
Comparison rel.effect p.value
1 p(RT,TR) 0.633 0.4345742
what do you think about using relative effects for comparing tmax values between test and reference?
best regards
martin
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- simul ants with no ties Helmut 2010-09-16 14:01
- simul ants with no ties d_labes 2010-09-16 11:19
- simulants of the world unite Helmut 2010-09-15 16:17
- simulants of the world unite martin 2010-09-15 14:53
- simulants of the world unite d_labes 2010-09-15 10:14
- simulation martin 2010-09-14 08:33
- Ties, no ties, ties, no ties ... d_labes 2010-09-13 13:21
- evaluation of tmax: use of relative effects?martin 2010-09-16 18:04
- Not positive about that Helmut 2010-09-16 19:52
- Not positive about that martin 2010-09-16 21:00
- Stupidity Helmut 2010-09-17 13:10
- Not positive about that martin 2010-09-16 21:00
- Not positive about that Helmut 2010-09-16 19:52
- tmax in case of ties: R vs. R vs. SAS Jack 2010-09-20 14:03
- R packages Helmut 2010-09-20 14:20
- R packages code d_labes 2010-09-27 11:27
- R packages Jack 2010-09-27 16:14
- Is Exact exact? d_labes 2010-09-27 09:53
- R packages Helmut 2010-09-20 14:20
- tmax in case of ties: StatXact, Phoenix, and... Helmut 2010-09-10 18:28