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Validating vs. WinNonlin... [🇷 for BE/BA]

posted by Helmut – Vienna, Austria, 2010-04-24 02:28 (5535 d 07:42 ago) – Posting: # 5208
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Dear bears!

❝ Just like analyzing a replicate crossover. I can not find the results obtained from analyzing with WinNonlin using a linear mixed effects model. As far as I could remember, we got pretty similar results as with WinNonlin at that moment.

D. Labes referred to one of my old posts: WinNonlin's method (assuming equal variances) is flawed - even in the current releases WinNonlin 5.3 and Phoenix/WinNonlin 6.1. The model is equivalent to the common one-way ANOVA (but like everything in WinNonlin based on maximum likelihood); only one fixed effect = treatment (no random subject term whatsoever). A random subject term does not make sense IMHO.

❝ Which model is more appropriate for analyzing parallel BE study with R?

Agreeing with D. Labes in the top post I would also use a t-test for unequal variances. That's the default of t.test and in conformity with FDA's requirements. For simple code see the subsequent post in the quoted thread.

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Complete thread:

Parallel bears meeting at random in infinity d_labes 2010-04-22 11:43 [🇷 for BE/BA]
- Parallel bears meeting at random in infinity ElMaestro 2010-04-22 12:53
  - Parallel groups in bear - CIs d_labes 2010-04-22 14:00
    - Parallel groups in bear - CIs ElMaestro 2010-04-22 21:47
      - Parallel groups in bear - CIs d_labes 2010-04-23 09:09
    - Parallel groups in bear - CIs yjlee168 2010-04-25 23:29
- Parallel bears meeting at random in infinity yjlee168 2010-04-22 23:09
  - Modelling Parallel bears d_labes 2010-04-23 09:12
    - Modelling Parallel bears yjlee168 2010-04-23 21:14
      - Validating vs. WinNonlin...Helmut 2010-04-24 00:28
        
        Validating vs. WinNonlin... yjlee168 2010-04-24 19:36
        Validating vs. WinNonlin... yjlee168 2010-04-26 00:09
        
        Validating vs. WinNonlin... Helmut 2010-04-26 01:29
        
        WNL in replicate BE yjlee168 2010-04-26 08:59
        
        WNL in replicate BE Helmut 2010-04-26 16:15
      - Modelling Parallel bears yjlee168 2010-04-25 19:34
        
        Modelling Parallel bears ElMaestro 2010-04-25 20:40
        Dataset Helmut 2010-04-25 22:38
        
        Dataset yjlee168 2010-04-25 22:44
        
        Dataset Helmut 2010-04-26 01:13
        
        Dataset yjlee168 2010-04-26 08:16
        
        NCA → Statistical analysis for parallel study Helmut 2010-04-26 13:12
        
        NCA → Statistical analysis for parallel study yjlee168 2010-04-26 18:43
        
        dilemma yjlee168 2010-04-26 08:41
        Equal variances d_labes 2010-04-26 09:04
        
        Equal variances yjlee168 2010-04-26 09:22
        
        GLM = Equal variances d_labes 2010-04-26 13:29
        
        GLM = Equal variances Helmut 2010-04-26 14:45
        
        I'm a believer d_labes 2010-04-26 15:58
        
        I'm a believer Helmut 2010-04-26 16:31
        
        Equal variances Helmut 2010-04-26 12:55
        
        gls() for unequal variances? d_labes 2010-04-26 16:36
        
        gls() for unequal variances? Helmut 2010-04-26 17:00
        Sims Helmut 2010-04-27 01:36
        
        Sandwich - Simsalabim d_labes 2010-04-28 10:58
        
        Sandwich - Simsalabim Helmut 2010-04-28 14:19
        parametrization of R function rlnorm martin 2010-05-02 18:22
        
        Mean of log-normal d_labes 2010-05-03 16:22
        parametrization of R function rlnorm ElMaestro 2013-07-26 21:42
        
        Martin‽ Helmut 2013-07-28 02:01