Too short tau? [NCA / SHAM]
❝ The question of linear PK (dose-proportionality) is also addressed in these kind of studies using data after first study drug administration (usually several doses are studied).
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❝ Thanks, wonderful idea to check AUCinf from previous single dose PK study with AUCtau obtained from the repeated dose toxicity study (i.e. AUC following last study drug administration)…
Well, that’s not my invention.

The problem of between-study comparisons is unresolved (variability!). I don’t know how reproducible results from your highly standardized nice rodents are, but in humans a serious comparison is always done in the same study (single dose profile > saturation > steady state profile; paired test – assuming no period effects, of course).
❝ AUCtau=AUCinf in the case of accumulation.
❝ AUCtau>AUCinf indicate nonlinear PK.
Exactly.
❝ Interpretation of study results may get complicated in the case that dose-proportionality holds after first study drug administration but AUCtau after repeated study drug administration is larger than AUCinf.
OK, I’m not an expert in pre-clinical PK. But for a new drug in humans IMHO the assessment would depend on the clinical indication. If the drug is intended for long-term use I would definitely concentrate on MD data (single dose only supportive). For an analgetic given only occasionally, I would not bother too much on nonlinear PK in steady state.
❝ Any idea what this result [linear PK in SD, nonlinear PK in steady state] could indicate?
Well, any one of the effects I mentioned in my previous post (time dependent PK, enzyme inhibition, capacity limited excretion, etc.).
Especially with biologics I have seen really weird stuff: Concentrations increased, stayed limited time at some ‘pseudo steady state’, and subsequently decreased to ‘true state state’. In this case the drug behaved as expected only for limited time (the first ‘steady state’) until an enzyme system was induced, which finally led to another (lower) steady state. That’s the tricky thing with predictions of plasma levels from single dose data.
A simple example (modified from Danielsson & Weiner, PK model 22):

‘Hard core pharmacokineticists’ even support such a statement:
Unless we have performed steady state studies – at different dose levels –
we do know nothing about the PK of a drug.
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- extent of accumulation martin 2010-01-13 13:38 [NCA / SHAM]
- extent of accumulation ElMaestro 2010-01-13 16:15
- extent of accumulation martin 2010-01-13 17:45
- Too short tau? Helmut 2010-01-13 19:14
- Too short tau? martin 2010-01-13 19:45
- Too short tau?Helmut 2010-01-13 20:02
- Too short tau? martin 2010-01-13 19:45
- extent of accumulation ElMaestro 2010-01-13 20:47
- Too short tau? Helmut 2010-01-13 19:14
- extent of accumulation martin 2010-01-13 17:45
- extent of accumulation Helmut 2010-01-13 18:16
- principle of superposition martin 2010-01-13 19:14
- principle of superposition Helmut 2010-01-13 19:34
- principle of superposition martin 2010-01-13 19:14
- extent of accumulation ElMaestro 2010-01-13 16:15