Verbosity [Design Issues]
Dear d_labes,
How about:
"In order to address the concern of the assessor, it is necessary to consider how center as a factor may affect the conclusion of bioequivalence. The conclusion about BE is based on the T/R point estimate and the intra-subject variability (ln(T)-ln(R) and variability of it); if the decision of BE hinges on center performance in a manner that is unfavourable to the patient then it implies
- one or more centres affecting the intrasubject variability negatively
and/or
- one or more centres resulting in flawed estimation of the T/R point estimate.
This effectively translates into presence of a treatment by center interaction, for example that the performance of T is truly constant across centers while the performance of R truly varies across centers (or vice versa and et cetera).
It is dfficult to see how the two factors could interact, especially because the production of a formulation in a time and space that is separate from the centre. Differential handling ability among the centres cannot be ruled out (*), but this would increase the intra-subject variability (sponsor's risk) but would not affect the patient's risk. Center is therefore not considered a concern for the evaluation of bioequivalence."
Or something like that ...
EM.
(*): The study nurse at centre X had rheumatism and could not open the bottles of T because the caps were screwed too tight while she handled the bottles of R just as well as the nurse at the other center (who was not rheumatic) handled both the T bottles and the and R bottles. Obviously lacking T tablets at centre X, the nurse decided to give the subjects aspirin in stead????? Yeah right, this treatment by centre interaction thing sounds really realistic.
❝ And if it happens (low chance) then answer "Due to the identical protocol,
❝ due to the identical handling of blood samples, central assay of the blood
❝ samples, blah, blah ... no influence of the different centers was expected
❝ at all."?
How about:
"In order to address the concern of the assessor, it is necessary to consider how center as a factor may affect the conclusion of bioequivalence. The conclusion about BE is based on the T/R point estimate and the intra-subject variability (ln(T)-ln(R) and variability of it); if the decision of BE hinges on center performance in a manner that is unfavourable to the patient then it implies
- one or more centres affecting the intrasubject variability negatively
and/or
- one or more centres resulting in flawed estimation of the T/R point estimate.
This effectively translates into presence of a treatment by center interaction, for example that the performance of T is truly constant across centers while the performance of R truly varies across centers (or vice versa and et cetera).
It is dfficult to see how the two factors could interact, especially because the production of a formulation in a time and space that is separate from the centre. Differential handling ability among the centres cannot be ruled out (*), but this would increase the intra-subject variability (sponsor's risk) but would not affect the patient's risk. Center is therefore not considered a concern for the evaluation of bioequivalence."
Or something like that ...

EM.
(*): The study nurse at centre X had rheumatism and could not open the bottles of T because the caps were screwed too tight while she handled the bottles of R just as well as the nurse at the other center (who was not rheumatic) handled both the T bottles and the and R bottles. Obviously lacking T tablets at centre X, the nurse decided to give the subjects aspirin in stead????? Yeah right, this treatment by centre interaction thing sounds really realistic.
Complete thread:
- Multicenter BE studies - center effects d_labes 2009-12-17 12:04 [Design Issues]
- Multicenter BE studies - center effects ElMaestro 2009-12-17 12:47
- Multicenter BE studies - center effects Helmut 2009-12-17 13:47
- ICH E9 - page 12 ElMaestro 2009-12-17 14:18
- Deficiency centers d_labes 2009-12-17 15:28
- Deficiency centers Helmut 2009-12-17 15:52
- Deficiency potocol d_labes 2009-12-18 08:12
- VerbosityElMaestro 2009-12-17 18:41
- Text gem d_labes 2009-12-18 08:34
- Deficiency centers Helmut 2009-12-17 15:52
- Deficiency centers d_labes 2009-12-17 15:28
