non-central t, power, R: [🇷 for BE/BA]
Dear HS,
Might be the way to go. One could hope that the author of Fartssie reads these discussions and looks into it. It is of course true, depending on how we look at this there is a lot of numerical integration and/or summation going on, and a lot of 'small' errors would indeed sooner or later amount to a 'large' error. To be honest I am just a little sceptical here, because we are not really involving extreme values of t or the noncentality parameters, so I am not at this point fully convinced that this is no more than just a numerical precision issue.
Must read some more papers, I guess. Or implement some C library which works with 117 decimals or something obscene and try anew.
If anyone has any insight into how Al Gore Rhythms can be validated when true results at the test conditions are not known then I'd be happy to learn it. Or even better, how to determine under which conditions ASA243 is accurate to 3 decimals or something like that.
EM.
❝ Have you considered contacting Russell Lenth (author of ASA243 and the VBA-routines in FARTSSIE)?
Might be the way to go. One could hope that the author of Fartssie reads these discussions and looks into it. It is of course true, depending on how we look at this there is a lot of numerical integration and/or summation going on, and a lot of 'small' errors would indeed sooner or later amount to a 'large' error. To be honest I am just a little sceptical here, because we are not really involving extreme values of t or the noncentality parameters, so I am not at this point fully convinced that this is no more than just a numerical precision issue.
Must read some more papers, I guess. Or implement some C library which works with 117 decimals or something obscene and try anew.
If anyone has any insight into how Al Gore Rhythms can be validated when true results at the test conditions are not known then I'd be happy to learn it. Or even better, how to determine under which conditions ASA243 is accurate to 3 decimals or something like that.
EM.
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- non-central t, power, R: ElMaestro 2009-10-03 19:05 [🇷 for BE/BA]
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