Interesting, however... [Study Assessment]
Hi all,
f2 has been tested vigorously and rigorously with fraudulent datasets, by ... well ... someone.
We can rather easily anchor it to some convenient value like zero for a perfect match and so on. No issues there. But even so, the experiments with f2 have been troubled by the fact that it does not separate duplicates from non-duplicates very well. So empirically speaking, it has been a kind of dead end.
However, that can be improved if we introduce weighting and give higher weights to higher concentrations just as with methods 101, 36, 205 etc.
Even so, a plain f2 derivative does not capture dilutions. So, if profiles are diluted before re-analysis then f2 can be a painful acquaintance. Moreover, the need to validate not just precision but also accuracy when developing methods is relevant: Even with un-diluted re-analysis the re-analysed profiles are occasionally displaced vertically. Stating it differently: We get dilution estimates a little bit different from 1 with methods that allow that, and that phenomon renders methods that do not allow dilution kind of useless. At least, so says the guy who has been looking a bit into it. He is a bit of a weirdo, though. I heard he is currently in Ahmedabad with trips to Surat, Mumbai, Goa and Hyderabad coming up.
Getting something useful from that guy might take a while.
f2 has been tested vigorously and rigorously with fraudulent datasets, by ... well ... someone.
We can rather easily anchor it to some convenient value like zero for a perfect match and so on. No issues there. But even so, the experiments with f2 have been troubled by the fact that it does not separate duplicates from non-duplicates very well. So empirically speaking, it has been a kind of dead end.
However, that can be improved if we introduce weighting and give higher weights to higher concentrations just as with methods 101, 36, 205 etc.
Even so, a plain f2 derivative does not capture dilutions. So, if profiles are diluted before re-analysis then f2 can be a painful acquaintance. Moreover, the need to validate not just precision but also accuracy when developing methods is relevant: Even with un-diluted re-analysis the re-analysed profiles are occasionally displaced vertically. Stating it differently: We get dilution estimates a little bit different from 1 with methods that allow that, and that phenomon renders methods that do not allow dilution kind of useless. At least, so says the guy who has been looking a bit into it. He is a bit of a weirdo, though. I heard he is currently in Ahmedabad with trips to Surat, Mumbai, Goa and Hyderabad coming up.
Getting something useful from that guy might take a while.

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Pass or fail!
ElMaestro
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ElMaestro
Complete thread:
- Comparing two plasma concentration profiles Darborn 2025-10-17 05:40 [Study Assessment]
- Comparing two plasma concentration profiles Helmut 2025-10-17 12:51
- Comparing two plasma concentration profiles Darborn 2025-10-21 01:02
- Comparing two plasma concentration profiles ElMaestro 2025-10-21 12:39
- Comparing two plasma concentration profiles Shuanghe 2025-10-29 16:27
- Comparing two plasma concentration profiles Darborn 2025-10-21 01:02
- Negative ƒ2 is possible Helmut 2025-10-30 15:40
- Interesting, however...ElMaestro 2025-11-03 14:15
- Negative ƒ2 is possible Darborn 2025-11-07 06:04
- Comparing two plasma concentration profiles Helmut 2025-10-17 12:51
