Groups: Overlapping CIs [Design Issues]
❝ Isnt it so that if we detect Group*Treatment interaction, the CIs of groups seperately very likely wouldnt overlap? That is why we detect an interaction?
The example I referred to in my previous post was not ideal because \(\small{p(\text{G}\times \text{T})=0.080992}\) and you were asking for a case where the Group-by-Treatment interaction is significant.
Below simulated data for an extreme case – Wanjie would love – with \(\small{\mu_1=0.80}\) and \(\small{\mu_2=1.25}\).
subject group sequence treatment period Y
1 1 TR T 1 2.6786
1 1 TR R 2 2.6848
2 1 TR T 1 2.0931
2 1 TR R 2 3.5289
3 1 TR T 1 2.0567
3 1 TR R 2 3.4351
4 1 TR T 1 2.2692
4 1 TR R 2 2.7533
5 1 TR T 1 3.6712
5 1 TR R 2 2.3086
6 1 TR T 1 2.6790
6 1 TR R 2 3.3427
7 1 RT R 1 3.9382
7 1 RT T 2 2.9792
8 1 RT R 1 3.0783
8 1 RT T 2 3.8813
9 1 RT R 1 2.2989
9 1 RT T 2 2.8853
10 1 RT R 1 3.5939
10 1 RT T 2 2.0244
11 1 RT R 1 2.7416
11 1 RT T 2 1.7836
12 1 RT R 1 2.8352
12 1 RT T 2 1.7375
13 2 TR T 1 3.8682
13 2 TR R 2 3.8447
14 2 TR T 1 3.1741
14 2 TR R 2 3.4061
15 2 TR T 1 3.5032
15 2 TR R 2 3.4281
16 2 TR T 1 4.0822
16 2 TR R 2 2.1213
17 2 TR T 1 4.3318
17 2 TR R 2 2.1424
18 2 TR T 1 3.0408
18 2 TR R 2 3.3706
19 2 RT R 1 2.8236
19 2 RT T 2 2.8858
20 2 RT R 1 2.2274
20 2 RT T 2 3.5447
21 2 RT R 1 2.8156
21 2 RT T 2 2.7663
22 2 RT R 1 2.4314
22 2 RT T 2 1.8948
23 2 RT R 1 2.1932
23 2 RT T 2 2.7153
24 2 RT R 1 2.6504
24 2 RT T 2 2.8821
Model I (pooled data)
p(G×T) = 0.024984
Model II (pooled data)
PE = 97.64%
90% CI = 85.53 – 111.47%
CVw = 27.13%
Model III (group 1)
PE = 82.54%
90% CI = 68.23 – 99.86%
CVw = 26.16%
Model III (group 2)
PE = 115.50%
90% CI = 98.04 – 136.08%
CVw = 22.43%
As to be expected, the Group-by-Treatment interaction is significant.
The study passes with flying colors by Model II. Also expected because the study was powered for \(\small{\mu_2=1/\mu_1=1}\).
Both groups assessed by Model III fail. Of course, they do because we simulated them at the limits of the BE range. However, their confidence intervals do overlap.
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Helmut Schütz
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Complete thread:
- Possible reasons for group effect GM 2019-07-20 07:36 [Design Issues]
- Group “effect” Helmut 2019-07-20 14:02
- Possible reasons for group effect ElMaestro 2019-07-20 19:20
- Possible reasons for group effect GM 2019-07-23 06:23
- “Group-by-Treatment Interaction” Helmut 2019-07-23 10:32
- “Group-by-Treatment Interaction” BEQool 2024-10-22 12:39
- “Group-by-Treatment Interaction” Helmut 2024-10-22 12:47
- OT: A choice between mittyri 2024-10-22 16:03
- OT: A choice between BEQool 2024-10-23 11:02
- OT: A choice between Helmut 2024-10-23 11:58
- OT: A choice between BEQool 2024-10-23 13:17
- OT: A choice between Helmut 2024-10-23 13:22
- Groups: Overlapping CIsHelmut 2024-11-03 11:36
- Groups: Overlapping CIs BEQool 2024-11-05 09:14
- Groups: Overlapping CIs Helmut 2024-11-05 10:12
- Groups: Overlapping CIs BEQool 2024-11-06 07:44
- Groups: (Hardly‽) overlapping CIs Helmut 2024-11-21 13:20
- Groups: (Hardly‽) overlapping CIs BEQool 2024-11-22 12:32
- Groups: (Hardly‽) overlapping CIs Helmut 2024-11-22 12:58
- Multiplicity? Helmut 2024-11-23 13:05
- Groups BEQool 2024-11-26 08:15
- Groups: (Hardly‽) overlapping CIs BEQool 2024-11-22 12:32
- Groups: (Hardly‽) overlapping CIs Helmut 2024-11-21 13:20
- Groups: Overlapping CIs BEQool 2024-11-06 07:44
- Groups: Overlapping CIs Helmut 2024-11-05 10:12
- Groups: Overlapping CIs BEQool 2024-11-05 09:14
- OT: A choice between BEQool 2024-10-23 13:17
- OT: A choice between Helmut 2024-10-23 11:58
- OT: A choice between BEQool 2024-10-23 11:02
- OT: A choice between mittyri 2024-10-22 16:03
- “Group-by-Treatment Interaction” Helmut 2024-10-22 12:47
- “Group-by-Treatment Interaction” BEQool 2024-10-22 12:39
- “Group-by-Treatment Interaction” Helmut 2019-07-23 10:32
- Possible reasons for group effect GM 2019-07-23 06:23