## Standard deviation of different designs [General Statistics]

Hi BEQool,

Yeah, that is confusing, too.

We have all kinds of standard deviations, but the one we usually learn about is the standard deviation of a sample.

But if we have a sample, then we also have a mean from it, and the standard deviation of that mean is called a standard error. When statisticians derive a standard deviation of a mean (in contrast to a sample), then they tend to call that a standard error. My suspicion is they are solely doing it to confuse people like me. So, I think the answer to your question is that the SE of the difference is the standard deviation of the difference.

I can't help with WNL at all. What it does, how it does it and how it presents results to the user is entirely outside my competences.

❝ I am not exactly looking for the standard error of the treatment difference but instead for its standard deviation. I am using Phoenix WinNonlin and standard error of the treatment difference is already given with "Diff_SE". I would like to find out how to get (if it is possible) standard deviation of the treatment difference from the standard error of the treatment difference "Diff_SE" (or is there some other way?).

Yeah, that is confusing, too.

We have all kinds of standard deviations, but the one we usually learn about is the standard deviation of a sample.

But if we have a sample, then we also have a mean from it, and the standard deviation of that mean is called a standard error. When statisticians derive a standard deviation of a mean (in contrast to a sample), then they tend to call that a standard error. My suspicion is they are solely doing it to confuse people like me. So, I think the answer to your question is that the SE of the difference is the standard deviation of the difference.

I can't help with WNL at all. What it does, how it does it and how it presents results to the user is entirely outside my competences.

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Pass or fail!

ElMaestro

Pass or fail!

ElMaestro

### Complete thread:

- Standard deviation of different designs BEQool 2024-06-27 12:25 [General Statistics]
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- Standard deviation of different designs BEQool 2024-07-01 07:25
- Standard deviation of different designsElMaestro 2024-07-01 07:38
- Standard deviation of different designs BEQool 2024-07-01 08:41
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- Standard deviation of different designs BEQool 2024-07-01 08:41

- Standard deviation of different designsElMaestro 2024-07-01 07:38
- Standard deviation of different designs ElMaestro 2024-07-03 13:37

- Standard deviation of different designs BEQool 2024-07-01 07:25

- Standard deviation of different designs Helmut 2024-06-27 13:29